Jedi Order Direction

[Phylis Alince]

If people want to join the Jedi Academy, they are completely free to. I'm sure it's a good idea for some characters and fits them well.

However, if people have Jedi characters they want to remain with the Republic...that's fine too.

There's clearly a split in opinions here, and that's perfectly fine. Neither side is going to 'win' this debate, both sides can go their own ways, still help each other IC I hope.

As for me, I am staying with the Republic, but that is my choice, and if you don't wish to follow that's perfectly fine too.

 

[Kamon's OOC]

Because its a power play by the people behind it. Just speaking the truth.
[member="Seraphina Shel'tah"]

 

[Arage Bao]

There is no power play and I would like you to keep those accusations away from this thread, just as [member="Aaralyn Rekali"] said, this ain't about that.

That being said, after reading what Kiskla wrote I got the feeling that it's entirely possible to stay with Grayson's Jedi Order and still only help the Republic exclusively.... for the people that want to do that.

So, I ain't seeing the need to start splitting the Order up.

 

[Varus Shatterstar]

If people want to join the Jedi Academy, they are completely free to. I'm sure it's a good idea for some characters and fits them well.

However, if people have Jedi characters they want to remain with the Republic...that's fine too.

There's clearly a split in opinions here, and that's perfectly fine. Neither side is going to 'win' this debate, both sides can go their own ways, still help each other IC I hope.

As for me, I am staying with the Republic, but that is my choice, and if you don't wish to follow that's perfectly fine too.

The horrible organization with how this was handled and the guile practiced by our "Grandmaster" when cutting ties with the Republic is concerning. I will not be following her in any facet to a new faction and I will not look to her as a leader of people From this day forward.

I would also caution anyone who follows a grandmaster, whether it's Kiskla or someone else. A grandmaster isn't any different than a DLoTs.

 

[Kamon's OOC]

[member="Khaleel Malvern"]
I didn't name names for a reason.

Regardless of what you feel or believe, this is not a decision that one person can make for the Jedi Order no matter what. Besides, it seems pretty clear that the majority wish to stay in the Republic.

 

[Gareth Yalthik]

Since I'm new here I was under the impression that the Jedi Order was going to become the Jedi Academy if they chose to secede. That's why I joined the Jedi Academy. But since that doesn't seem to be the case I think the Jedi Order should remained aligned with the Republic. I don't know what went on since I came back two days ago, but the Jedi have always been aligned with the Republic and if they break off, and are free to help whoever they deemed fit I feel that defeats the purpose of everything, especially if so-and-so faction are aligned with the Sith.

That being said, as I've thought it over wouldn't the instructors being doing the same thing here as they're doing there at the Jedi Academy? Teaching...? Why does a new faction need to be developed when they can render the same aid they would have been doing otherwise if they remained here? Maybe I'm not understanding it. I'm confused, lol.

 

[Seraphina Shel'tah]

[member="Gareth Yalthik"] I believe (Someone correct me if I am wrong on this) The Jedi Academy is supposed to be a 'network' of academies which are open to any and all Jedi of the Republic, Silver, or Levantine, and any other of the grey area Jedi that float around, as well as those who are non-aligned but practice the light side? It will open up more trainers to apprentices so that the knights/masters aren't so overwhelmed with having to take on so many students.

It's a good idea, but should not be in any way related to the Jedi Order leaving the Republic. They should be two entirely separate institutions.

Regardless that doesn't change what has happened here. Referring back to my previous posts.

 

[Placeholder 0123]

Someone better pick up that phone because I CALLED IT!

 

[Ilias Nytrau]

[member="Seraphina Shel'tah"]

You have the exact measure of it, m'dear. Perfect! As to your previous post(s) - aye, the manner of how this 'split' has been broached is indeed the sticking point! That is, as I see it, the topic of the conversation for this thread and it should be nothing but!

Indeed, the Academy Network is just that. It's a broader scope of learning, training, and growth for Jedi. More access to trainers, and the skills that they teach. It is a light-side institution. And yes, it is not in any fashion related to the Jedi Order potentially or actually or not at all splitting from the Republic.

That is what it is, and nothing else.

 

[Aleksandyr Gaillard]

I've been sitting here trying to wrap my ahead around all this.

Word of Advice:

Not that i have to remind anyone, Role-play has 'play' in it for a reason. It's not real, but it's made up of real people. So when you're role-playing stop thinking about your characters, stories, and stuff. Think of the people you're building stories with.

"Is this going to piss people off?"

If you can answer yes to that, and do something anyway, your intention is to piss people off.

I was actually about to write a much larger post but decided against it. It's not worth anyone's time.

 

[Kyla Foy]

[member="Phylis Alince"] I stay forever loyal to my master =3

 

[Camellia Swift]

As an outsider this topic has gotten somewhat off topic.

And the appearance of a Sanctum Master settled it.

This isn't about the Jedi Academy, this is not a thread to bash it or promote it so all such related posts can hopefully be dropped as members of the Jedi Order currently still in the Republic decide what to do without interference one way or the other.

 

[Rain]

Dear everybody in the past, present, and future,

It's great that you support each other and everything.

But, please, for the love of God, stop with the passive-aggressive Liking of the posts that burn other people in ways you agree with.

It's okay that you're fighting because people fight, but if you have something to say, just say it. Quit trying by way of Social proof to validate one of what is essentially a dozen different varieties of squawking noises as somehow better than any other. They stand for themselves and are all equally shrill and annoying.

Christ.

 

[Gherron Dragovalor]

*likes just to antagonize*

No but really, I've stated my opinion, and now I'm done. I'm not leaving the Republic. From this point, i'm just watching and nodding my head, until someone says something else that engages me to speak up again.

[member="Rain"]

 

[Corvus Raaf]

OK, a few pointers.

Firstly please avoid conjecture about what you think people thought or did, or what their motivations were.

As I'm prone to say,"Facts are facts. Opinions of facts are just opinions."

Secondly, let's keep it free from name-calling - there's no place for that and as has already been mentioned this is a 'game.'

Now keep your thoughts and views coming but please note that we have asked Kiskla to explain precisely what is meant by all of this. I have personally (checks watch) spent just under 15 hours on Skype today trying to unravel all of this. And the conclusion at the end of it was...wait for Kiskla.

So she will, for example, clarify the role of the Academy (is it just a place to learn or is it the new home of TJO). And once we know what the situation is, we can all decide what we do. Stay or leave, it's everyone prerogative to choose.

Me? I came to these boards to RP and I've done zero today despite being online for 15 hours, so I for one would like this resolved and we can all move on.

And whatever happens, you stay classy Galactic Republic, eh?

[member="Avalore Eden"] | [member="Kiskla Grayson"]

 

[The End Narrator]

I'm told that people are being instructed to wait for [member="Kiskla Grayson"] to come on and explain her position - however - my position has not changed.

I'm going to explain again - no one is saying people can't be apart of the Republic Jedi Order and train with the Jedi Academy - that isn't the issue.

The issue is the dissolution of the Jedi Order under the Galactic Republic - and absorb it into something members desire it not to be.

There are alot if us who are displeased with the current course of action.

I will state again - If Kiskla chooses to leave and take some people with her - so be it.

We will still stay here and run the Jedi Order under the Republic banner. Those who wish to stay can do so with us.

The Jedi Academy can be whatever it is, a network, separate faction, whatever. They aren't the subject at this time.

 

[Varus Shatterstar]

Someone better pick up that phone because I CALLED IT!

>_>

 

[Corvus Raaf]

As the debate is happening anyway, I thought I ought to mention the second reason given to me for the split - because it shouldn't be just about Jedi wanting to or not wanting to stay.

It was put to me that the NFUs don't want the Jedi within the Faction as it stifles them. So again, in the interests of a full and frank discussion it would be good to hear from NFUs if that is the case. Sorry, I should have mentioned this before.

 

[The End Narrator]

[member="Seraphina Shel'tah"]

You have the exact measure of it, m'dear. Perfect! As to your previous post(s) - aye, the manner of how this 'split' has been broached is indeed the sticking point! That is, as I see it, the topic of the conversation for this thread and it should be nothing but!

Indeed, the Academy Network is just that. It's a broader scope of learning, training, and growth for Jedi. More access to trainers, and the skills that they teach. It is a light-side institution. And yes, it is not in any fashion related to the Jedi Order potentially or actually or not at all splitting from the Republic.

That is what it is, and nothing else.

This may be it's true intention? But the intention of the Jedi Academy is not the intention of the Jedi Order being absorbed into it. Black and white is black and white. Regardless, the Jedi Academy again is not the subject - The subject is the dissolution of the Jedi Order from the Republic which is something alot of individuals aren't wanting nor are willing to follow.

I find that interesting [member="Corvus Raaf"].

Antarian Rangers are NFUs who directly support the Jedi Order - I attempted to rouse interest in this - Got a great response. Where is this Anti-Jedi Order sentiment?

Are we talking purely IC or has there been an OOC statement from SOLE NFU players?

 

[Seraphina Shel'tah]

Sorry this post is gonna suck. On my phone in Dead stopped traffic. If this is the case, why is it that the parties involved in said statements and decisions have yet to speak a word of this all day? I'm aware everyone has lives and that's not what I'm insinuating. However, an OOC discussion should have taken place long before this happened. This was entirely a reckless decision to handle things this way. I don't understand how the folks involved with this decision thought this was a respectable way to go about fragmenting the faction that we ALL belong to. We're all a team aren't we? So my question is what the hell happened ??