Lightsabers for droids?

[Ultimatum]

I was wondering if there was anything against droids using lightsabers. If they can use them how efficient do you think they could be at it?

I was thinking that they can be very effective at wielding them in ways so that they wouldn't strike their own bodies better than an organic being. But then that is just my thought.

 

[Grrwunhoooll Agaburry]

Nothing Wrong with it. HK-36 used to be a droid character on the board that was one hell of a saber duelist.

Do yourself a favor and get a lightsaber and kick some butt [member="Ultimatum"]

 

[Ultimatum]

Alright, thanks for letting me know.

[member="Krafurk Maris"]

 

[Corvus Raaf]

[member="Ultimatum"]

There are definitely canon characters that learned to use sabers that were not Force sensitive. At least a couple of famous ones too.

I often get asked to train NFUs on the board - but here is one of the sticking points (which I am sure you can overcome). FUs like Corvus use the Force to wield a saber. It's how they learned and how they teach. During the last Event, Corvus didn't use her saber as the Force was wonky and she couldn't use it properly.

So Corvus showing an NFU how to use one would be like (as I crudely see it) teaching someone to swim without water.

But you could copy the moves and actually it would be easier for a non-organic to wield a weightless blade than an organic IMHO. So...find yourself a teacher and off you go

 

[Grrwunhoooll Agaburry]

Good lord! [member="Corvus Raaf"]

You smell like.... christmas spirit.

 

[Ultimatum]

I had assumed that as a NFU he wouldn't have the ability to sense the future and would therefore wouldn't be capable of the premonition that would make FU very effective at combat.

With the idea of copying moves do you think he could also be able to identify enemy movements faster than most organic lightsaber wielders and be able to counter?

[member="Corvus Raaf"]

 

[Fasalin]

[member="Ultimatum"]

Perhaps you could get a programming update to teach you the basics of each lightsaber technique. Combine that with a droid's faster reflexes and superior physical abilities, and I think he could be competent. Look at General Grevous, who gave a very good account of himself against Obi-Wan in the good prequel.

[member="Corvus Raaf"]

Lucas always said that the lightsabers were very heavy, rather than weightless as you'd imagine they would be. That was the stated reason for the style of fighting in the first film, though Alec Guinness' advanced age probably had more to do with it. Having said that, it seems that the idea was abandoned from Empire onwards, since the fights after that were more like fencing than than the Samurai-esque style of the first duel.

 

[Sanya Val Lerium]

[Member="Ultimatum"]

http://starwarsrp.net/topic/66786-mpsd-s1-maria-and-alice/

That should answer your question.

Also you can always upload the saber styles into the Droid to make them better and more efficient with a saber.

 

[Corvus Raaf]

[member="Ultimatum"]

That's a great question. He should be way quicker than any NFU with a saber for sure. And faster than some FUs logically.

I guess some is down to the Jedi/Sith. Corvus does not consciously fight - the Force guides her. So the question is, is a droid quicker than the Force? But given NFUs can match FUs for speed e.g. the use of Teräs Käsi, then why not? Or at least as quick.

All you'll lack is the ability to augment your fighting with the Force e.g. a Force Pull or Push here or there.

Don't forget, droids are used for saber training in canon all the time. So nobody could tell you it's not possible. Grievous did well enough (OK, he was partly organic but was not an FU) until he finally met his match. His collection of sabers proves he was able to defeat Jedi.

Just not that Jedi LOL

 

[Corvus Raaf]

[member="Fasalin"]

The blade is weightless - but strength is required due to how they are wielded. Which is an odd combination to master I suspect

"Due to the weightlessness of plasma and the strong gyroscopic effect generated by it, lightsabers required a great deal of strength and dexterity to wield, and it was extremely difficult—and dangerous—for the untrained to attempt using."

 

[Sanya Val Lerium]

[member="Corvus Raaf"] Corvus why do I have a feeling where someday you will find a way to go back in time steal obi-wan and live happily ever after with braith and an the wan you want. (Oh that pun)

 

[Sanya Val Lerium]

[member="Corvus Raaf"] Corvus why do I have a feeling where someday you will find a way to go back in time steal obi-wan and live happily ever after with braith and the wan you want. (Oh that pun)

 

[Corvus Raaf]

[member="Sanya Val Lerium"]

There is only one true love for Corvus...

 

[Ultimatum]

Where would you say Ultimatum could find information such that he could utilize?

[member="Corvus Raaf"]

 

[Corvus Raaf]

[member="Ultimatum"]

One of my weaknesses is that I have a narrow focus on these boards.

There will be many prepared to teach you I suspect. Most likely for a fee or a favour. Logic says someone, somewhere has created a piece of software you could upload - I just don't know who.

Or you could have your character simply watch holovids for days on end. Corvus, when she was four, did the same. She watched, mimicked and spotted potential flaws etc. Your character could simply watch and learn?

And finding a saber should be easy enough. Any battlefield will be littered with them, given the number of NPC Jedi and Sith that die

 

[Connor Harrison]

[member="Ultimatum"] If a droid can be programmed to speak over 6 million forms of communication, I'm sure 800 years later it can be programmed to use a lightsaber.

As a Jedi would? No.

But to me a saber is nothing more than a sword - more dangerous, of course, so if you use it thinking you can master it deftly then you're going to lose a limb, BUT if you can handle a sword like a master in fencing, regardless of weight, then you should be able to use a lightsaber.

Again, use it against a Jedi? Probably not unless you bested a Padawan who didn't use the Force as an advantage.

Heck, look at recent TV spots for 'TFA' - lots of debate if Finn is Force adept, but he uses a lightsaber as he probably has been trained in that aspect to use against Jedi. I don't know, just assumptions at this stage.

BUT as I'm rambling, I think a droid has a fair shot at using a lightsaber if the story and logic surrounding it is at least acceptable for this galaxy.

Again...we're here to have fun, not make it a hardship to enjoy the fantasy we write.

 

[Fasalin]

[member="Connor Harrison"]

Not as well as a Jedi would? We know that Grevous probably killed at least four Jedi, and almost killed Obi-Wan.

 

[Seraphina Shel'tah]

[member="Fasalin"] | [member="Connor Harrison"] | [member="Ultimatum"] | [member="Corvus Raaf"]

Grievous, in the cartoon series, killed lots of Jedi. lots. He was, I would say, one of the most feared Jedi hunters of the time. In the movies, he sucked...And that made me terribly sad. The cartoon series made him into a display that Force users were not all powerful and unstoppable. He nearly killed Obi-Wan a couple of times, Kit Fisto once (Though that fight was kind of 1-sided), Ahsoka two or three times. Even during the fights he was losing, it was far from being a simple fight.

On top of it all, he had fought pairs of Jedi at the same time while wielding four lightsabers like some kind of robotic ninja. Sure, he was basically one of a kind, and trained by Dooku, and basically the most advanced "droid" of the time, but at the very least it shows that droids could in fact wield lightsabers effectively if properly trained. You don't necessarily need the Force to be a fluent fighter.

 

[Connor Harrison]

[member=Fasalin] [member="Seraphina Shel'tah"]

Of course, sorry, I meant a droid who could use a saber but had no Jedi training (Grievous had training by Dooku) wouldn't be wise to go against a Jedi/Sith; a droid wouldn't last.

But a droid WITH, as long as it makes sense in story, then you're looking at a worthy foe I imagine.

BUT then the old question, did Grievous have an advantage because he was a cyborg, not just programmed with wires. He must have felt and understood more than a basic droid to become such an efficient combatant and Jedi killer. That and the 4 arms!

 

[Glaze Starchaser]

Just not that Jedi LOL

Nothing may face down Ewan MacGregor... It's in the Movie Cliche Bible or something


[member="Ultimatum"]

Dunno if it's already been mentioned, but Vader had droids programmed to duel him effectively (ignore the fact that they were destroyed), and PROXY from the Game-Which-Shall-Not-Be-Named had plenty of lightsaber skill. Hell, maybe you could do a thread where you find the old 'bot and take his memory banks.