Master of the Outer rim

[Thraxis]

Okay, a few days late but whatever registration is now closed. Bit late because I was figuring out how these things work but I have developed my own basic idea.

Okay, so this will be in one thread, all people involved, you will have ideally ten posts to split between yourself and your opponent, so in total five posts. If neither one of you can ride out a win, then I will decide. There are a few things that can sway it in your favor, how well you handle the fight, theatrics and of course, if there is any force powers or shenanigans. Then of course instant lose. Another thing that will cause disqualification is not responding within three days. If I get no response then an automatic win for your opponent.

This allows anyone who has joined to late to be able to spectate and put in their five cents as it goes by. All settled? Probably not but whatever.
[member="Solan Charr"] [member="Varik Ryjin"]
[member="Cadoc Raal"] (Didn't know if you were joining so just tagging you in.)
[member="Filius Stellarum"] [member="Jericho"] [member="Lord Ajihad"]
[member="Julian Valentine"] (I imagine you might want to be in. If no then just ignore it.)
[member="Lady Kay"]

 

[Lord Ajihad]

[member="Thraxis"]

I will actually be entering under my alt, [member="The Banshee"]

 

[Thraxis]

Okay that's fine.
[member="The Banshee"]

 

[Kay-Larr]

[member="Thraxis"]

I posted!

 

[Varik Ryjin]

Wait... Are personal ranged weapons allowed? I assumed "no long range weapons" meant anything with more range than a pole-arm.

And we can bring animals too?

One more edit. What's the needle?

[member="Thraxis"] | [member="Lady Kay"]

 

[Kay-Larr]

I think ranged weapons are okay, such as vibroblades and such. Animals I'm not sure about. The needle is somotal. I think. Knocks you out real quick.

[member="Varik Ryjin"]

 

[Varik Ryjin]

I assumed thrown weapons were allowed, but Thraxis showed up with a brace of pistols, which made me wonder.

[member="Lady Kay"]

 

[Kay-Larr]

[member="Varik Ryjin"]

He wasn't intending on fighting I wasn't either, but I thought it'd help get things going.

 

[Thraxis]

[member="Varik Ryjin"]
Yeah nah, Ranged weapons are allowed. Anything with a short range like a Pistol would be allowed. We just don't need someone with a sniper rifle at the other end of the Arena blowing brains out.

 

[Aithne Charr]

*Whistles and just watches the others fight*

 

[Varik Ryjin]

[member="Varik Ryjin"]
OOC: Dude, you are going to need to clarify your strikes because our positions are getting all jumbled up and I think you are doing things you may not be capable of doing. Here is a list of our positions and actions from my POV:

1. My left leg is up, pinned to the right side of your ribcage by your right arm.
2. My right foot is planted securely, and has not moved.
3. Your left arm is coming towards my face
4. My left hand is coming up from the left side of your arm.
5. My right arm is striking for your armpit

Here are your and my actions, in chronological order, as well as some continuity issues:
1. You grabbed my leg with your right arm when it was supposed to be coming from your left "Filius merely shifted his weight to his right foot and pivoted on it, lifting his left leg clear of the kick, spinning, and aiming a full force kick at the head". I rolled with that one, because it didn't have any distinguishing factor.
2. You punched at me, aiming for my face.
3. I shoved your arm aside from the left side of your arm, pushing it to my left, your right, and shifted my head to the right, a "standard forearm block"
4. I shoved against you to push you to your right, my left. There was no movement of my leg, no step, just pushing from my current position "he shoved against the man with his solidly planted right foot, aiming to both further throw off his aim and send him onto the ground".
5. I struck at your armhole, my intention was to strike at your armpit
6. You pushed against my block, which would have no bearing on anything because of its position and the direction of my push, and you didn't even acknowledge my grabbing of your wrist.

All in all, I guess your intention was to force me onto my back before I could push you down onto your stomach, but your response doesn't make a lick of sense. I am essentially attempting to force you to turn to your right, and because you are lunging forward with your left arm to punch me, "lean in and twist to his own right" would only make you go faster. Plus, you are already being shoved to your right, so even if you didn't twist, your knee would hit my inner thigh, doing no damage. Also, you seem to be making a lot of movements, like putting your left foot behind my right, that were not mentioned in any posts, and if they were assumed, should have been clarified.

TL,DR: Your strikes are not making any sense and I ask that you please edit the post because you seem to be misinterpreting my posts and making a lot of assumptions as to my positions and actions.

After re-reading, it seems I'm getting your right and left hands mixed up and that's the primary issue. I'll edit to fix it, but there are a couple things that still needs to be addressed.

1. The kick. You never specified a target or direction, which leaves it up to me to determine (according to standard dueling practice, any unspecified attack action that has to be assumed is up to the defender to specify, regardless of what the attacker actually intended, though obviously it has to be within reason). I assumed you intended a standard forward roundhouse aimed at my front-right side, since it's more efficient than trying to spin completely around and deliver a reverse-roundhouse to my back-left.

2. The leg positions. My left leg landed behind your right when I stepped into the missed kick at your knee. It's been there since that post, since neither of those feet have moved yet.

[member="Filius Stellarum"]

 

[Filius Stellarum]

[member="Varik Ryjin"]
1. Since I specifically said I was spinning, I think it would be obvious that I was attacking with the reverse, if you think about it. Also, if you weren't clear, you should have asked. That is what private messaging and ooc discussion is for. I understand your reasoning, but I have never before ever used the whole "defender decides" thing, so since it wasn't clear to both of us I believe it should not apply, or we should edit to compensate.
2. If you leg was striking at my left knee, remained on the same path, and landed along that trajectory, that places it beneath my left leg if we keep our current positioning, or to the left of my right foot, not directly behind it, so therefore it is irrelevant to the issue at hand.

 

[Varik Ryjin]

Yes, it would have landed to the left of your right foot, but a standard forward-roundhouse would shift the angle of your right foot so my left was behind it.

If you're really dead-set on the reverse-roundhouse, I can edit again to include that, but I can guarantee it won't turn out better for you.

Actually, scratch that. THat was two posts ago so we'd both have to edit multiple posts and it's probably more hassle than it's worth.

[member="Filius Stellarum"]

 

[Filius Stellarum]

[member="Varik Ryjin"]
Also, your edit still doesn't make any sense. I am shoving you to your right with the force coming from my right foot. If it makes it any clearer I am leaning to the left using force from my right foot pushing against your back.

 

[Varik Ryjin]

All the post says is that you shove me using your right foot, and you have no points of contact on my back. The only ones you have are in the block (on my left-front) and my hold on your leg (on my right-front). Pushing at either of those points would drive me back (from your perspective, which is back and right from mine), not forward. Is there a third point of contact I don't know about?

[member="Filius Stellarum"]

 

[Filius Stellarum]

[member="Varik Ryjin"]
Like you said in the edit, point of contact is your grip on my leg. If you intend to keep that grip, and I shove from your left the shove pulls you down with me. I will edit that post to make it more clear what I am intending to do.

 

[Thraxis]

[member="Filius Stellarum"] [member="Varik Ryjin"]
Nah just ignore the Post Cap. I don't get much experience with PvP so I thought it was an ideal amount. But it ain't so just keep going till you feel satisfied with how it goes. That being said if we get to Page Four of this and you two are still going its gonna need to stop. We still have [member="Solan Charr"] waiting for someone to fight with. We don't want to use all our tricks right off the bat.

 

[Aithne Charr]

Shush, don't tell them im here...

 

[Varik Ryjin]

Now I'm the one that's confused. I assumed you'd let go of the kama before trying to grab my wrist (since you'd have to in order to perform the grab), but now it's back in your hand?

I also grabbed the leg above the knee (which is specifically stated in the post where it happens), so the knee isn't going to be able to push into my abdomen. If you want to leave your post as is I can roll with it as long as that positioning is understood, but if you want to edit then feel free.

Edit: Never mind about the grab bit. Didn't read your message until just now. Though I will mention that this kind of heavy editing (you've edited it twice now) to a post that was already responded to is not even slightly kosher in normal arena environments. Can you possibly avoid doing it any more in the future?

[member="Filius Stellarum"]

 

[Filius Stellarum]

[member="Varik Ryjin"]
1. I PM'ed you saying that we are ignoring the grab, because I recognized that continuity issue.
2. You are grabbing my left leg. I am pushing against the ground and charging with my right leg. You really need to get better at reading which leg and arm I am using and from which direction.

If I was editing it for any other reason, I would agree with you, but because this is a continuity issue, where its getting posts to line up, I don't think its too much of a problem. We have both needed to do it with this duel.

Edit: As far as it already being responded to, it was your actions in the next post that required it to be edited, as there were continuity issues, and the post needed to be clarified. I don't see the problem in that.