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Navy Meeting - Calling all Fleeters / Pilots

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Ruuku Hollis

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Alyesa Praxon said:
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If this is in regards to the coordinates to Tython and so forth, why would we invite other Naval Units or members of Naval units to attend?

Now, separate thread perhaps but if this is the one I'm currently involved in as Alarice...I question this.
Although we didn't disclose the coordinates of Tython and in that extent is therefore harmless information. Plus, not all RP has to be super-strictly-serious. If we left it to only the most elite, we wouldn't have a full room right now. There'd be like 3 of us, and I want to create RP where all of us Navy folk can RP together because there are so few of us. Don't wanna split the Navy community between the grunts and elite, yah feel?
 
Noticed the thread title while looking for the map... Because my phone broke and I was plotting world domination again... arched an eyebrow... walked in here half expecting someone to be trying to organize a skirmish or wargame.

I have to admit. I am both impressed and jealous of how many 'navy officers' the Republic has in this thread. Even if most of them are mechanics, fighter pilots, junior officers, exc... It's still impressive.

*slow clap*



Sadly, as much as it makes me want to recruit more Mandalorian Naval Officers...

I also kind of want to murder you all.


January/February. Roche.

I'll bring some tea and turbolasers.
 
Ruuku Hollis said:
Although we didn't disclose the coordinates of Tython and in that extent is therefore harmless information. Plus, not all RP has to be super-strictly-serious. If we left it to only the most elite, we wouldn't have a full room right now. There'd be like 3 of us, and I want to create RP where all of us Navy folk can RP together because there are so few of us. Don't wanna split the Navy community between the grunts and elite, yah feel?
That is fine but again, we're a Republic at War.

I'd ensure you clarify that this is for members of Allied Nations kind of deal.

Otherwise, we might as well invite the One Sith Grand Admiral in. ([member="Tsavong Kraal"])

Also it appears very Sithy or thereabouts what you're doing here. *eyes and goes to prepare the guillotine*
 

Atticus Savar

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I am going to bring up the elephant in the room and go out on a limb here.

The original purpose of this was to strictly get the Republic Navy Pilots in a room and do a beginning development to push towards what a Military unit like the Republic Navy should be.

Then Senators and the Supreme Chancellor some how got invited and the intent got lost right around the time somebody decided to propose the idea to serve up Tython and by extension the Jedi up on a silver platter to the One Sith.

This first thread was intended as I understood it for nothing more than to let the Navy Pilots all get introduced to each other. Then a second thread was going to be created to serve as a type currently to be ironed out training scenario to serve as not only a chance for the new people, myself included, a chance to get a little OOC and IC experience in and for the veterans to evaluate and train said new people OOC and IC.

However as I hinted before at this very moment I have no idea what we are doing anymore.

I feel I should probably put this out there just to clarify. I have no problem with the interaction of Politicians with Military personnel and even Jedi with military personnel but this was not the thread to do so. That can be done with later threads as the Republic Navy as a unit gets on more solid ground.
 

Ruuku Hollis

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@[member="Atticus Savar"]

As the creator of the thread, I intended it to be as it had become. It was a military meeting, and in such meetings, military objectives are discussed. Were it a gathering, it would have been called thus. Apologies for the inconvenience and confusion.
 

J3C0

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Atticus Savar said:
Then Senators and the Supreme Chancellor some how got invited and the intent got lost right around the time somebody decided to propose the idea to serve up Tython and by extension the Jedi up on a silver platter to the One Sith.
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It is a well known fact, a dozen Jedi Members including Council Members have defected or fallen.

Tython is no "hidden" secret anymore it would be safe to say. Would it be heavily guarded? Probably so. But the enemy will hit you where you think you're safest.


Ruuku Hollis said:
@[member="Atticus Savar"]

As the creator of the thread, I intended it to be as it had become. It was a military meeting, and in such meetings, military objectives are discussed. Were it a gathering, it would have been called thus. Apologies for the inconvenience and confusion.
If you intended it to be a military meeting, wouldn't you seclude it to the Republic? If you wanted to have a conference then I could see this being a "Come to our table" type deal, but again the Supreme Chancellor wouldn't just be strolling up.

I think the message got mixed up between "Intention" and "Reality".
 

J3C0

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Alyesa Praxon said:
Tython is no "hidden" secret anymore it would be safe to say.
Whaaaaaaaaaat. No....we definitely don't know....


You can totes leave it alone and undefended with all the Jedi and Artifacts still there. Its a mystery.

-waves hands and disappears-
 
Atticus Savar said:
I am going to bring up the elephant in the room and go out on a limb here.

The original purpose of this was to strictly get the Republic Navy Pilots in a room and do a beginning development to push towards what a Military unit like the Republic Navy should be.

Then Senators and the Supreme Chancellor some how got invited and the intent got lost right around the time somebody decided to propose the idea to serve up Tython and by extension the Jedi up on a silver platter to the One Sith.

This first thread was intended as I understood it for nothing more than to let the Navy Pilots all get introduced to each other. Then a second thread was going to be created to serve as a type currently to be ironed out training scenario to serve as not only a chance for the new people, myself included, a chance to get a little OOC and IC experience in and for the veterans to evaluate and train said new people OOC and IC.

However as I hinted before at this very moment I have no idea what we are doing anymore.

I feel I should probably put this out there just to clarify. I have no problem with the interaction of Politicians with Military personnel and even Jedi with military personnel but this was not the thread to do so. That can be done with later threads as the Republic Navy as a unit gets on more solid ground.
It seemed to be pretty much a thread for everyone to talk and get more acquainted with each other, which is why military matters were discussed in order to actually give us something to talk about and organize ourselves. If not that it would have basically been a naval officer's social ball and ended very quickly. That is all a part of the original purpose, and after that we would have done the training once the chain of command for our group was established in this said meeting.

And a meeting like this was bound to have at the very least one politician in the group, which makes sense in the context of our priorities. They would have helped us built that solid ground once we had some support/backing from people in charge instead of being just some random group of people who got together. I got why you wanted to keep one of them out for OOC reasons, but having the chancellor there to put input into the meeting made it important enough to give us some legitimacy.

I might not have fully agreed with letting other factions in on the meeting, but that's not my point right now. :)


Darth Mierin said:
Whaaaaaaaaaat. No....we definitely don't know....


You can totes leave it alone and undefended with all the Jedi and Artifacts still there. Its a mystery.

-waves hands and disappears-
And now that proposal is out of the bag just because someone didn't like it.

We'll leave a key to it for you guys on the front porch. :p
 

Atticus Savar

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Which brings us back to my original point of a Military meeting being a meeting of keyword "Military". There is no need to involve non-military in a military meeting. As the purpose would be in a case where their are at least two brand new junior officers joining a command. I encourage you or anyone for that matter to cite either in an OOC situation or even in an IC situation where a Senator or any other Political figure as been in attendance in what amount to new orientation for new officers joining a command.

The legitimacy of a military unit is not in whether joe shmoe politician from where says oh hey you are good to go but in that units ability to preform it's intended function. Especially if said Joe shmoe politician is the equivalent as say the President of the United States.

To clarify my point I will use a real life example. Back in 2004 for then President Bush created a number of new Marine Corps Battalions one of which was in San Diego California. This also caused an existing unit of the same type to be renamed. I guarantee you as one of those units was the one I was in not a single Senator was present. The Battalion had a meeting in a big conference room where the Battalion Commander said hey effective immediate we are now..........

The IC issue of the status of the Republic Navy is the same type of thing. We are not reinventing the wheel here ladies and gentlemen we are simply trying to get the cogs in motion. If the good Admiral [member="Alarice Mollari"] wants to hob knob with Senator [member="Ayumi Pallopides"] or even Supreme Chancellor [member="Popo"] then that is awesome she can do that at any time she wishes. However if the good Admiral wants to get the Fleet back into combat shape then it should be about the Fleet and only the Fleet. There is no need for anyone other than the members of the Fleet new and old to be there.

From an OOC perspective this is the chance for those new to Star Wars RP or those who need a refresher after being away from Star Wars RP a chance to do so. In which case simple is better.


At any rate this will be the last I am going to put forth on this topic as a feel like I am slamming my head against the wall trying to explain a concept that is not that difficult to get. Whatever happens from here happens.
 
Atticus Savar said:
Which brings us back to my original point of a Military meeting being a meeting of keyword "Military". There is no need to involve non-military in a military meeting. As the purpose would be in a case where their are at least two brand new junior officers joining a command. I encourage you or anyone for that matter to cite either in an OOC situation or even in an IC situation where a Senator or any other Political figure as been in attendance in what amount to new orientation for new officers joining a command.

The legitimacy of a military unit is not in whether joe shmoe politician from where says oh hey you are good to go but in that units ability to preform it's intended function. Especially if said Joe shmoe politician is the equivalent as say the President of the United States.

To clarify my point I will use a real life example. Back in 2004 for then President Bush created a number of new Marine Corps Battalions one of which was in San Diego California. This also caused an existing unit of the same type to be renamed. I guarantee you as one of those units was the one I was in not a single Senator was present. The Battalion had a meeting in a big conference room where the Battalion Commander said hey effective immediate we are now..........

The IC issue of the status of the Republic Navy is the same type of thing. We are not reinventing the wheel here ladies and gentlemen we are simply trying to get the cogs in motion. If the good Admiral [member="Alarice Mollari"] wants to hob knob with Senator [member="Ayumi Pallopides"] or even Supreme Chancellor [member="Popo"] then that is awesome she can do that at any time she wishes. However if the good Admiral wants to get the Fleet back into combat shape then it should be about the Fleet and only the Fleet. There is no need for anyone other than the members of the Fleet new and old to be there.

From an OOC perspective this is the chance for those new to Star Wars RP or those who need a refresher after being away from Star Wars RP a chance to do so. In which case simple is better.


At any rate this will be the last I am going to put forth on this topic as a feel like I am slamming my head against the wall trying to explain a concept that is not that difficult to get. Whatever happens from here happens.
You're forgetting that we were making a battle-group, which has to be under an officer who is allowed to command such forces, which has to be given authorization under superior officers, who checks in with the chancellor. Especially with a group that is being made up of what is essentially right now the entirety of the Republic's naval interest OOC. And bringing in a real life situation that has little comparison, the renaming of a unit (after a politician ordered the creation of a battalion) is nowhere near as important as what we were doing in the grand scheme of how the republic would fight its future invasions, is not really necessary and doesn't prove your point.

Could it have been better organized? Sure, but my issue is more that instead of talking about it in private channels it was brought into the open and made public. And if this is all it takes for you to get upset and drop out of the conversation than fine. I want to be civil about it and still do if you change your mind.

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