New Sith Council Poll

[Sinistra]

All the options presented go with the understanding that all positions would be open to any OS member regardless of what side they supported in the coup.

How you reconcile that with your character is up to you, but there will be one united OS at the end.

Appointment to and service on the resulting council(s) will be tied to IC activity and replacements will be determined by recommendations to the admin team for those who have shown dedication to the OS.

If you have alternate ideas about the council, list them here.

 

[Reverance]

Other. One council, fill it with people that should be in it, disregarding nfu and fu delineations altogether.

 

[Khallesh]

Why is there such a focus on NFU/FU split in this?

Are you making a conscious decision to drive up NFU membership?

Why should 10% of the members govern 50% of the faction power IC?

Why is it not as Reverance suggests?

 

[Darth Ferus]

Originally I had done the don't care, but after reading [member="Reverance"] I agree.

 

[Cyrus Tregessar]

The impression i got is that one council is specifically to govern Sith-y affairs and the other to govern more secular buisness.

I could be misreading it but i dont see either as necessarily being exclusive in membership to FU/NFU, particularly rhe second council.

I would like clarification on that point, i suppose.

Speaking as a dedicated NFU i like the idea of there being a FU Sith council that handles the religious side of house while a perhaps larger and mixed 'war council' or whatever runs things in actuality. House or Lords and House of Commons type situation.

 

[Khallesh]

[member="Cyrus Tregessar"]

Oh yeah, like the GR attempts to ban FUs from the senate has never really gone that well. People like to play Force Users and you end up restricting the councils to a subset of characters that are often alts. A council open to both NFUs and FUs seems perfectly sensible.

 

[Caulder Dune]

One council and none of that "half and half" nonsense. People should be selected on merit, not for quotas.

And keep it simple, people. What could the merits of dividing leadership among two different councils along the arbitrary lines of Force Sensitivity possibly be? Besides to turn us into a bureaucratic mess.

 

[Darth Carnifex]

Besides to turn us into a bureaucratic mess.

You mean like the Triumvirate?

c:

 

[Reverance]

[member="Cyrus Tregessar"]

Not sure about all of the sith, but a significant component of force sensitives are involved in military combat and war. It's simply not feasible to quarantine their scope of power to religious dogma.

Regulated and arbitrary lines between a two council body makes very little sense from the perspective of the power holdings within the OS. On top of that, it limits creativity and supposes the concept of differences and attempts to enforce it. The OS should be lead by a cohesive group, not by multiple entities separated by unnecessary lines.

Sure, there should be provisions to allow NFU the potential for power in the OS. Just as Isamu has done, he's done it without any special concessions. If anything, this simply tells me that a separate council needs to be made in order for nfu to get on it, to have power. Which I don't believe is truly the case. This is a systemic issue and a seperate councils feels like the proverbial throwing a dog a bone.

 

[Caulder Dune]

[member="Darth Vornskr"]

 

[Khallesh]

[member="Darth Adekos"]

Dying.

 

[Khallesh]

[member="Isamu Baelor"], [member="Konrad von Grimmelshausen"]

 

[Cyrus Tregessar]

I agree that the main governing council should be mixed, i just think it fits thematically to have a seperate Sith council that only governs Sithy business.

Apologies if that was unclear.

[member="Darth Adekos"]
[member="Reverance"]
[member="Khallesh"]

 

[Caulder Dune]

What constitutes Sithy business? Sith are obsessed with power and influence. They want government positions. A council that only governs "Sith business" sounds like it would spend most of its time regulating who gets the next turn to brood in the spooky meditation chamber.

 

[Ellie Mors]

What constitutes Sithy business? Sith are obsessed with power and influence. They want government positions. A council that only governs "Sith business" sounds like it would spend most of its time regulating who gets the next turn to brood in the spooky meditation chamber.

I assume there's some disconnect in the perspective of what Sith do in the OS.

 

[Darth Ferus]

[member="Cyrus Tregessar"]

The very philosophy to many Sith means that those with power rule. Which is why there have never really been any NFUs that outrank the Sith Lords in cannon, EU, etc. The Sith are just as much political as they are religious. Darth Vader never had a Moff he had to answer to.

Buy that doesn't mean it can't change. Segregating FU from NFU goes against the Sith entirely. Part of their thing is freedom. But to have NFUs be in this council as they earn and work for it makes sense. Isamul did that. The Sith are the Sith. If a NFU wants to gain power, they'll have to do it the same way the Sith do. Build a power base, get as many loyal to you as you can, and deal with rivals as they come up. It would be a hell of a lot harder for a NFU, but totally possible.

And I'd love to see it.

Yay opinions though~ I still agree with Rev. Those who earn it, get it.

 

[Sinistra]

Added a new option which doesn't look at force use, but people who deserve it

 

[Bethany Haverford]

I'm sorry. I don't mean to become part of the problem, so please understand this comes from confusion after reading through the previous thread. I am glad we've agreed on a general council idea but this still does not address the concept of if there will be a PC Dark Lord. Respectfully, did I miss a post which addresses what decision was made on that? I don't care what kind of council it is because I haven't been around long enough to be on any council established unless it ties into the original idea of Mephirium as DL. (That's just how it is; that is not a complaint.) I do want to know if there will be a Dark Lord of any kind and if there will be an actual vote about that.

A huge thank you to [member="Sinistra"] who had to field a lot of nonsense and attitude in the last thread-- and, I imagine, privately-- and is doing a tremendous job at trying to hold the One Sith together as mediator.

 

[Darth Carnifex]

Darth Vader never had a Moff he had to answer to.

But he did answer to Grand General Cassio Tagge at one point in time.

[member="Darth Ferus"]

 

[Cyrus Tregessar]

[member="Darth Adekos"]

Not really sure, honestly. But generally I imagine if you have an Empire built around a religious-ideological order there should be some manner of regulating it as such.

Its entirely possible that this all needlessly complicating matters and if so im perfectly happy to let the matter drop.