[OOC] A Raven Republic

[Jen]

If one have a problem with the people they're rp'ing with, it should be stated right off the bat so we don't run this dry and sour or something and people start powergaming because they're mad. Then one should rather refuse to rp with said person as the other alternative will suddenly not be rp for the fun of it. But to deny the other rp.

I've spotted some pretty passive aggressive comments on the threads so far...

Even a "I should sell coffins..." remark on the original recruiter for this mission. Luckily I'm not tied up in OOC groups on this site as of yet, as it normally leaves out the excitement of rp and creates a lot of drama. Such as this. It is obvious that some folks have been sitting and talking together. Not that this is necessarily bad though. But I think it should be carefully considered if instead of letting this become sour, then shut it down now so no further trouble arises (And then have the parts who dislike each other stop roleplaying with each other). As it seems some obviously have issues with the people on the other side.

Again. I'm not tied into any OOC really on this site so I've not the slighest of clues of what is going on or if I'm taking this too seriously. But in general I do not find it pleasant to rp if it is not solely for enjoyments sake.

Cmon, it's imaginary rocks. Lets not be so hard against each other.​

 

[Nyxie]

I'm just going to say this now and in public, since that was Larraq's policy. It's not been fun since he started poodooting on me constantly in the OOC threads, some of which had no relation to this skirmish at all.

Yes; I'm not having fun now. I want to though, and I want everyone else to as well.

That's not gonna happen if we're sitting here pointing fingers at each other over words on a screen that mean nothing, especially if we can't even take the time to read them. Like Arcis and Jen have taught me, this is all imaginary and means nothing. Let's try to make some attempt at getting along?

 

[Evelynn]

I like, as a general rule of thumb, to look at what I've typed in any area of the internet; a forum, social media, a comment section and before I click post or hit return read it back and ask:

Would I like this if it was said to me?

I heartily encourage everybody else to do the same.

 

[Captain Larraq]

The Ulur'uur is not on the edge of the system, it's only a few dozen kilometers at best away, and you have been sadly mistaken this entire time. Neither the Ulur'uur nor the Deathbell have moved from their positions aside from light drifting since the beginning of the thread. It is, and I quote, a few thousand kilometers from planetside.

A single Ulur'uur-class Frigate crept through space on the outskirts of the system which housed Aeten II.

The first sentence of the entire thread. You are either contradicting yourself, confusing yourself, or lying.

Even in your own post, you contradict yourself within three sentences. First you say it's a few dozen kilometers away, then you say a few thousand.

The Deathbell, and LLP with it, unclamped and departed from No Refuge. It quickly flew out of proximity of the ship and commenced a hyperjump to an interdiction point the frigate had discovered a large quantity of space traffic to be. The cloaked and distorted fighter emerged several minutes later from hyperspace several thousand kilometers from the destination world. She simply remained idle at the intersection, watching, waiting, hoping to sight the perfect mark from behind the veil whilst the others awaited her command aboard her frigate.

The hyperspace jump (even if just from one side of the planet to the other) would have been very noticeable on sensors, thus giving away your position. Also, since I'm sure you'll now try to argue that you were near the planet the entire time, it's very clear in your original post that you were parking the frigate on the edge of the solarsystem and jumping the fighter in towards the planet.

• I didn't hack anything with anyone's eyes, I used them to see stuff... as eyes do. See things.

I've re-read the posts for the Red Ravens. You're using the Ulur'uur Frigate to hack into another ship's... something. Sorry hun, but it can't do that. The Ulur'uur frigate can detect stealthed object, track hyperspace travel, and listen in to enemy communications. It cannot, however, be used to hack into an enemy ship and tinker with its programming. That was never an intended role or feature for the ship.

• [member="Rhodessa"] made absolutely zero effort to detect anything and I'd greatly appreciate if the same effort was shown mutually rather than metagaming.
• I dropped the passive-aggressive gig two posts ago.

What effort?

"I'm hacking you now."
"I'm watching him hack you."
"Ok, I have what I want. I'm done hacking you now."

"I see that I've been hacked! Oh no! Turn off the computer!"

What's the issue? I really don't see a whole lot of effort. You wanna go look up some actual hacking techniques and give long, descriptive paragraphs about the intricate process of hacking into another computer system? Sure. Go right ahead. THEN you can complain when people detect you with a single quick post. But as it is, you've done nothing to warrant that kinda request.

 

[Nyxie]

The first sentence of the entire thread. You are either contradicting yourself, confusing yourself, or lying.

That was the very first opening post, yea posts ago. You're being nitpicky for the sake of it now.

The hyperspace jump (even if just from one side of the planet to the other) would have been very noticeable on sensors, thus giving away your position.

That's correct, so my only question is why the hell haven't you pulled it over yet. Never once did the Ulur'uur ever enter hiding.

I've re-read the posts for the Red Ravens. You're using the Ulur'uur Frigate to hack into another ship's... something. Sorry hun, but it can't do that. The Ulur'uur frigate can detect stealthed object, track hyperspace travel, and listen in to enemy communications. It cannot, however, be used to hack into an enemy ship and tinker with its programming. That was never an intended role or feature for the ship.

Proof in point that you are either confused, misreading or simply not reading yourself;
The Ulur'uur isn't hacking anything. The slicers are hacking the ship. The slicers are using the Gypsy as a proxy to do this, for a handful of reasons that are a whole different subject. Ergo, the Ulur'uur isn't doing jack poodoo. In claiming this, you have blatantly ignored two of the other writers in the thread.

What effort?

They didn't just magically one-line hack the ship, yet it was all undone in one.

 

[Tefka]

 

[J3C0]

 

[Rhodessa]

[member="Manamune Lumina"] As an engineer, I know if something not working. Turning it off is the safest course of action, in fact that is my job. I turn people gas off for a living, I also know how to rewire a heating system. Find a broken wire, and fix it. So when my pilot notice there is something wrong with the controls, and calls the engineer, what does he do as the safest course of action?

Plus he probably seen it before, as I seen things all the time what I have seen before.

Though some stuff I read about I hope I never see.

[member="Captain Larraq"]

 

[Lysle of the Hydian Way]

[member="Manamune Lumina"] [member="Captain Larraq"]

I've been privately messaged about this discussion becoming heated. I don't know what is going on. Please relax and enjoy yourselves, I will be PMing the both of you to see how I can help out the both of you, and see what we can do to settle this. For now, this will only escalate so please help me out by talking about this privately to avoid inciting other arguments.

 

[Captain Larraq]

Proof in point that you are either confused, misreading or simply not reading yourself;
The Ulur'uur isn't hacking anything. The slicers are hacking the ship. The slicers are using the Gypsy as a proxy to do this, for a handful of reasons that are a whole different subject. Ergo, the Ulur'uur isn't doing jack poodoo.

Sweetheart. The slicers are on the Ulur'uur frigate using its systems to hack into another ship. The Ulur'uur Frigate (and associated systems) cannot do this. And... I'm looking through every sub I can find... And I'm not seeing anything even close to what you're attempting being mentioned in any of the submissions. Nothing you're using here should be capable of what you're attempting.

 

[Nyxie]

something wrong with the controls

I understand, but there is nothing wrong with the controls. The navicomp was hacked, not the flight controls, and given ghosted coordinates masked as the real ones. Things wouldn't be apparent until the ship started engaging a hyperspace jump, likely ending in jumping somewhere they didn't plan to be.

 

[Nyxie]

The slicers are on the Ulur'uur frigate using its systems to hack into another ship.

I'm going to say this one last time, dude. The ship's own systems aren't being used. I have stated several times that it was dormant and have explained once already that the reason is because a ) the Gypsy does the same job and b ) the Gypsy won't light up light a Christmas tree when it does.

I don't know what equipment (beyond the mention of a datapad and personal software) the slicers are using, but I can assure you, by no means have I authorized them access to the Ulur'uur's advanced systems.

It would be best to ask [member="Cryax Bane"] and [member="Jen"] what they use to slice, and if there are any links handy. I'm not the slicing team. I'm just a droid floating through space.

 

[Rhodessa]

[member="Manamune Lumina"]

Okay if I missed read that bit fine, but I think I would notice my jump quardentes being altered. Since you got to punch them in, and wait for computer to compute them. Then you do final check, and hay someone has mess with my nav computer. Okay which one you jokers been playing around. Then engineer comes up checks the computer, and figures out. Same result

[member="Captain Larraq"]

 

[Tefka]

Captain Larraq and Manamune Lumina have been banned from the thread.

Edit: Since you're viewing this as an alternative character, it's okay to continue posting. But keep trolling the thread with your insane arguments and I'll view it as a form of escalation.

 

[Arrbi Betna]

Y'know, maybe we should just ax the thread entirely? Since it wasn't thought out, it's obviously becoming an issue, and neither side is having fun at this point. Honestly, I have no wish to continue RPing in this thread, much less with the Ravens. I'm doing so because my major faction, the Mandalorians, are being raided and because the minor faction I lead, the Mandalorian Protectors, are defending it because that's their job. I know [member="Anija Ordo"] was initially done with the thread when it started as were a number of the Protectors OOC'ly and I'm sure the Mandos in general feel the same, though I know not as I'm not in the skype chat.

Perhaps [member="Azrael"] and [member="Lysle of the Hydian Way"] should discuss and just have the Ravens leave intact and the Mandos go back off of red alert? Seems like the least drama oriented avenue possible to me. Heck, just label the thread as non-canon and let folks derp around as they wish. No one loses, no one gains, and folks can do whatever.

 

[Tefka]

This thread, like all others, will fizzle out on it's own. It doesn't require an axing.

 

[Arrbi Betna]

Even a "I should sell coffins..." remark on the original recruiter for this mission.

That was my alt. I was attempting a bit of humor, though it seems I gauged it a bit poorly. My apologies.

 

[Nyxie]

This thread, like all others, will fizzle out on it's own. It doesn't require an axing.

I am alright with doing that, honestly, and I'll ask the others what they want to do.

I'd never posted an inter-faction thread before, so this was my first and it was admittedly not discussed very thoroughly. Since at this point, very few people actually want to be in the thread, its purpose has been lost and it might be best for everyone.

I know the odds of actually sitting together in a discussion and planning a restarted one are very slim, and that we probably won't get to barter for the Stygium now (an Idea I never thought about until someone brought it up), so I'll leave it up to everyone else as to what they want to do with this.

[member="Arrbi Betna"] - I actually had a real laugh when I read that. xD

 

[Arrbi Betna]

[member="Nyxie"]
You could just label it non-canon? I mean, discuss it with your folks by all means. Some OOC hostility may still be there, I know it is to an extent on my part (from a different incident), and I'll probably catch flak from him tomorrow, but I'll apologize for Waid flipping poodoo to an extent. He works very, very hard on his tech both IC'ly and OOC'ly and he knows it in and out. When he sees someone abusing it or potentially abusing it, he tries to nip it in the bud long before it becomes a staffer issue because if it goes that high up, he may lose his tech at worst or have it nerfed at best. I can completely understand that outlook as I run a company, too, and would hate to have someone abuse my submissions.

Larraq acts like a dick at times and comes off as an @$$hole most of the time, but he's really chill 90% of the time on things. It's just the whole possible tech abuse, his tech specifically, that generally flips on the rage-switch. I'm sure there's other things involved lol Just that's the key issue, I think.

As for the non-canon thing, like I said, there'll still be the OOC animosity to a point, but IC'ly there wouldn't be. Some dislike, sure, but not outright hostility on a purely IC level. Just my two bits.

 

[Nyxie]

I was the one who started the idea so I think it's safe for me to make it Non-Canon.

I know I come off a bit aggressive and I apologize as well for being a retroactive @$$hole. I respect his tech subs (proof in that I asked to buy one!) and it was something along those lines that I chose to use the Gypsy for a bridgegap instead of the Ulur'uur in the first place. If any of the others accidentally used the Ulur'uur in such a capacity that I may have missed, I apologize for that as well.

I really want to just bury the hatchet and put this thread behind us. Perhaps we can work something out - beforehahd! - in the future when things cool down some. On behalf not of myself, but of the faction and the project to which most of the Stygium was going towards for the faction, I would appreciate that.

Any objections to tagging Non-Canon?