OS vs. GR campaign idea

[Shaddi]

Like the title says the idea in question is a series of battles between Sith and Republic writers to call a campaign.

However, they would not be invasions of either faction's worlds. Instead the idea behind this Campaign is for a battlegroup representing each faction to battle it out on Neutral worlds in between their territories. Essentially where both group's writing contributes to a dominion, and the winner of the battle taking control of the world, while the losing faction would fall back to the next planet and a new battle would commence.

Overall I am suggesting that the Republic and Sith each put together a Task Force of 5 Faction Writers and up to 2 Ally Writers. Who will then begin a battle against each other on Chandrila, and regardless of who wins the losing sides forces will retreat to Devaron where the next battle will take place. Each battle's setting being agreed upon beforehand.

The idea of this being a Campaign though, is that the same worlds will be fought over up to the 5 battles is desired. Say should the Sith lose the battle at Chandrila, but win at Devaron, they could choose to battle again on Chandrila (rather than say pushing for Teyr instead) at a second chance to take it. In such a way each faction could come away with a world each or the same world could be taken and lost repeatedly.

The concept behind this campaign is the small writer count to keep things contained and also make it feel like a real battlegroup put together for both sides. If this idea is popular the feature can be added where each battlegroup can bring in an additional writer after the first and second battle.

To be honest since each faction could only gain worlds with nothing to lose I think everyone would have a lot of fun and the scenarios we could setup could be interesting as well, such as a battle conducted completely aboard a space station while people dogfight around it, or Sith and Republic armies clash with Jedi and Sith heroes at the front as rally leaders for Commanders behind the battle lines, etc.

If there are OS writers interested in this then, feel free to post here and we can always gather more to set things up and talk it out in more detail.

(copied mostly from here http://starwarsrp.net/topic/84944-republic-vs-sith-campaign/ )

Now what I have found is around 4 writers, including myself, and am hoping to see if there are any other writers interested in doing this?

 

[Cyrus Tregessar]

Hmm, something like this has reached planning stages before, a long time ago, but failed to get anywhere.

I'd definitely be interested, but not sure if I'll have much time around after the invasion and the like. I can offer limited planning/etc. support right now though.

 

[Joycelyn Zambrano]

I wish I had time to sink into this. In a few weeks, I'd be all over it (Either through this character or Darth Ophidia).

 

[Isamu Baelor]

Overall I am suggesting that the Republic and Sith each put together a Task Force of 5 Faction Writers and up to 2 Ally Writers.

Seems unfair for most OS writers to be left out.

 

[Shaddi]

well this is thought of as battle groups so it's much smaller than doms [member="Isamu Baelor"]

 

[Eldaah Aderyn]

Sure why not, would be interesting

 

[Krayzen Dratos]

I prefer the old concept of surprise invasions, but this idea looks promising.

 

[Shaddi]

[member="Malos Kas"] I think it's a way of breaking up the usual invasions and endless doms that simply sap away your will to continue. (Also side not are you a good fleeter?)

[member="Eldaah Aderyn"] So can I count you in perchance?

 

[Eldaah Aderyn]

[member="Darth Erebos"]

sure can

 

[Krayzen Dratos]

[member="Darth Erebos"]

As stated before, I'm only new to fleeting mang. Either way, I think(albeit this is my first experience with invasions so I might most likely be wrong) that invasions are fun because you can have people pop up, and do damage; furthermore, it's open, and this idea limits the 'openness' of invasions.

An idea similar to this was tried in my other site, although the active pop is much more smaller than chaos. I wouldn't mind seeing how it works in a site as active as this, so that's why I can say it might have promise.

 

[Shaddi]

[member="Malos Kas"] Well it's an interesting experiment to be certain though right

[member="Eldaah Aderyn"] nice then we only need maybe 2 more that can be mercs XD

 

[Gorteko Graye]

Personally I think if it's going to smaller groups, there shouldn't be rewards for winning other than character development and the like. If the OS were to be fighting for a planet against 7 pubs, I would like to think we'd send overwhelming forces to destroy them, and same with our opponents against just 7 of us. If it is going to be smaller groups like you stated, there shouldn't be rewards going to the faction that a majority of the faction couldn't participate. It'd make more sense for these battles to be between scouting forces, and the winning scouts allow a faction to begin a dom on that planet or something of that sense, rather than having 7 writers fight for a capture that will affect the factions control, just my opinion though.

[member="Darth Erebos"]

 

[Shaddi]

(please not this isn't a rant just what I've constructed about this with the GR writer that came up with this idea and We are working on this together.)

While the battlegroups are restricted by the member count, there can be more than one battlegroup at any given time. It wouldn't even have to be against another faction, it could be a group organized to do dominions together. Because let's face it. How many dominions get every single member of a faction involved? For that matter how many Skirmishes even pull more than 10 members? Skirmishes die off pretty fast since there's no consequences, and dominions just go slowly with PvE which isn't the speed of everyone in a faction. This is just trying to be a fun new way to get faction interaction and create new ways to dominion. Maybe we won't complete all five battles that are planned for this experiment but it'd be fair to get everyone through three to see how it goes and how well recived this change in pace can be. Heck, just seeing how the first battle goes will be educating enough to let everyone know if this works. And if it does it can lead to faction organizing more battlegroups to do battle doms as an alternative to skirmishes and regular dominions. And for that matter Rebellions, because I know no one was happy with Denon turning into a Rebellion, it might as well just been a battle from the start since there was 125 posts from just the rebellion part.

So I guess that's how it is, we're just starting the doms with the rebellion battle and just like in a rebellion if the defender won they kept the world and if the rebels won then the minor faction takes it. The only difference is we're trying to organize it more. We're restricting things by the member count, but its no different from the current activity these things garner. I mean heck, there was only Khallesh, Kug-Kal, and Warok at Denon, that was 3 Sith against 6 Republic in a dom. Would you think the OS deserved a reward if they had won Denon with just 3 people?

To answer that question I'm not sure, but then again by creating this we have battles with finite resources and those that simply spend them whilly nilly will get called out on it. After all if we enter a battle field with say 32.000 troops on each side then gaining a foot hold and doing so at the cost of as little troops and resources as possible will be the fun part. Not to mention with the battles like this if one side owns the orbit of the planet the other side can still push on and these battles could be waged over the course of weeks or days in each characters timeline, defining them even more as they experience for a prolonged period the horrors of war and in some cases the bitterness of defeat in a hard fought battle or even the sweet taste of achieving victory by snatching it from the very jaws of defeat.

At least those are my thoughts on the subject. Given that it's fewer writers then it could very well mean that we can have a post limit of 30 instead of 20 like in doms as well as keep it going until it is actually done, not until some post limit or time limit have been reached. That way each writer can focus on his/her posts to give out as good a quality as they can each time and if it's just the two factions with the mercs in reserve as back up if things begin to tilt one way or the other that might be a very interesting turn around strategies emerge from it.

[member="Gorteko Graye"] [member="Malos Kas"]

 

[Isamu Baelor]

The activity of our past dominions should not be used as justification for excluding people. Even if not that many members are participating in dominions, we should always endeavor to keep things as open, and inclusive, as we possibly can. In the last few months, we've made great strides in making this faction more inclusive for it's members. Whether it be taking feedback from them in regards to ideas, or expanding our IC organizations to offer more variety for their characters. An idea like this, which purposefully excludes a vast majority of our writers, is a step back for the faction. It would be a mistake.

 

[Isamu Baelor]

In regards to a PM I received earlier:

The One Sith is not North Korea. We do not limit our members to only posting positive feedback. Our members are free to post any, and all, criticisms they have. If you want some kind of safe space, where people will only give you positive feedback, look somewhere else.

Note: This particular PM was sent by someone who has not participated in this topic.

 

[Teresa Zambrano | Darth Pellax]

[member="Isamu Baelor"] at the end of the day as individuals you can't stop us doing this. Nothing has stated that the entire fraction can't participate in this. But the idea of this been much smaller one cuts out a lot of drama. Two it creates fun story's with perpous and three it is something different. But honestly give me valid reasons why this isn't good and I'm sure I can give more good reasons why this idea is for once a good one.

[member="Darth Erebos"]
Don't worry boo some of us think it's a good idea.

Note: This particular PM was sent by someone who has not participated in this topic.

Note note: stop causing drama. Members don't like it.

 

[Darth Carnifex]

Note note: stop causing drama.

That's rich coming from you.

 

[Ax'no]

[member="Teresa Shan"]

With all due respect, Isamu is just stating his opinion of this idea which as a Faction Owner and member he has a right to do, as do I, or anybody else in the One Sith.

I don't see unnecessary drama being created, and I happen to like this Faction Staff and Isamu as an FO. Members under this Staff team are treated very fairly and encouraged to feel included.

You are making an assumption that 1) drama is being caused and 2) it will cause members to not enjoy RP in the OS. In both cases this isn't true.

PS: I am one of the writers who is signed up for this event - but I 100% am in support of writer's expressing their opinions even if it's against an idea.

 

[Rapax]

Note note: stop causing drama. Members don't like it.

Dont make me laugh... [member="Teresa Shan"]...But i agree with [member="Briga Tiin"] on this topic Isamu has done more for this faction as FO and as a normal member then you ever will. He isn't causing drama, YOU are trying to stir a pot you dont want to stir and you can say what you wish about my response and any other's here and If you want to berate what i said go right ahead i wont care nothing you say can or will change what i said.

That is all.

 

[Laira Darkhold]

A) Yes the number is very limited, I understand the desire to limit it, but in a Faction of significant size, it makes it seem exclusive.

B ) The Idea is solid idea, needs some work. Get a sign up going of people willing to COMMIT to it, then figure up numbers from there. That's super easy, disbands the Exclusivity of it, and gives you a rough estimate of people actually willing. Unless doing something very specific, You aren't in a Dungeon Finder, just grab whoever wants to go, figure out numbers after.

I've had ideas for this kind of thing before, if you want this to be successful, there has to be GAINS. Gains get people motivated. Its why Invasions kick off and get hundreds of posts. There are gains. Figure something out that rewards writers and characters (Not just a Faction) and you will get a lot more people into this actively.

But that's just my two cents.

C) Yall need to chill

D) Don't come in just to back up your girl and stoke the drama fires to finish a by telling others not to cause it. Its transparent, and when done to a close knit group that you have repeatedly OOC disdained and insulted among other things, only makes it appear more malicious than it probably is.

E) Kaine, I hate you.

F) That is the Grade you get for not being Darth Torji yet.

G) Provide constructive criticism for the OP, Join, or don't post.