Nubica Felidae
We are well and truly forked...
Ignore me - just rambling and stuff 
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Roche - a question
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My life, for yours.
[member="Nubica Felidae"]
As far as I know there's no OS on either side of that invasion, but I could be wrong. Who did you have in mind?Nubica Felidae said:
Nubica Felidae
We are well and truly forked...
More inane rambling...
The Admiralty
[member="Nubica Felidae"]
Think I know who you are talking about. That dude is a mercenary who sells his services to the highest bidders, furthermore it's ICly not known that he is a Sith Lord - apparently he's revealing it in this invasion though! So excitement.
Think I know who you are talking about. That dude is a mercenary who sells his services to the highest bidders, furthermore it's ICly not known that he is a Sith Lord - apparently he's revealing it in this invasion though! So excitement.
Moonage Daydream
They're wrong. As soon as I get away from my fihgt, I'm going after the wrong GA members and logging who they are, ICly.
The Mandos do have one confirmed active Sith.
So, fighting with them is against the 'End the Sith' rule.
The Mandos do have one confirmed active Sith.
So, fighting with them is against the 'End the Sith' rule.
Abigail Selonna
Character
[member="Coren Starchaser"]
I guess I should ask first, may I use GA assets to help with the GR defense at Roche?
I'm thinking of having about 2000 meters worth of frigates/corvettes (Talking it over with their fleeters atm as well). As this stuff would be GA/OP property, Abigail would likely need permission at least, if not direct orders to assist.
I guess I should ask first, may I use GA assets to help with the GR defense at Roche?
I'm thinking of having about 2000 meters worth of frigates/corvettes (Talking it over with their fleeters atm as well). As this stuff would be GA/OP property, Abigail would likely need permission at least, if not direct orders to assist.
Moonage Daydream
YES
110% yes.
GA will support the GR. They have Jedi, they're light side. The bad guys from the GR ICly were removed from the accounts I'm seeing.
If you see anyone picking up arms against the GR, you are weapons free.
110% yes.
GA will support the GR. They have Jedi, they're light side. The bad guys from the GR ICly were removed from the accounts I'm seeing.
If you see anyone picking up arms against the GR, you are weapons free.
Harmon Tardai
Member
[member="Coren Starchaser"]
Excellent. As per the rules, I can bring in two of my characters if I am allowed to keep the slot. Abigail is going to help with the fleeting, working that out with their admirals. I might also bring in Harmon or Niall to jam up the Mando operation on the ground (what little of it their is in the asteroids).
Excellent. As per the rules, I can bring in two of my characters if I am allowed to keep the slot. Abigail is going to help with the fleeting, working that out with their admirals. I might also bring in Harmon or Niall to jam up the Mando operation on the ground (what little of it their is in the asteroids).
Keepin Corellia Weird
So tell me... Who is the 'active and confirmed Sith' that you know of ICly? I only know of one Mando who is Sith affiliated at all... And that's not public knowledge yet. If you guys know, i'd be curious to know how you know.Coren Starchaser said:
As well, if we're unilaterally limiting member stories and threatening reprisals and witch hunts because an entire faction might harbor one single Dark Side allied person... Why are we helping the Republic (Keira Ticon works with them and is a Dark Jedi), Taeli Raaf was a Sith who just 'turned back' really quickly, etc.. Or the SSC, who has harbored and (though I haven't checked currently) may still be harboring Dark Side aligned characters? I like both of these other factions and the aforementioned writers... But it seems a little slanted in action and support.
I get Coren is super-duper anti-bad guy crusader.... And a lot of the GA is going from a loose and more 'Fringer Friendly' feel to a group of dogmatic crusaders...But I don't see where you got this IC info (and if you're going to announce punishment IC, you should supply how you know it)... And it just seems off to me. Way over-amped and over-charged, and a pretty negative atmosphere for a group that stresses no drama and story.
EDIT: And just so no one takes this the wrong way... I'm not angry. I'm not accusing anyone of meta, or ill intent, or anything. I had plans to throw Julius into the mix for the Mandos. He has ties in his back-story to them, and reasons to dislike the GR. And now I find out if I do, I'll be lynched essentially, and over information that is being stated isn't publicly known by other parties. So i'm merely curious how that would happen to come about. If Coren or such knows something from an informant or the like, that is cool, but the rest of us don't. You can hardly expect us to react or act withing knowledge we don't have, and there have been no IC announcements decrying a mando as sith that i've seen on our end. So, we don't know it, and I'd think reprisal against those ignorant of such things is... Silly...
Nubica Felidae
We are well and truly forked...
[member="Julius Sedaire"]
I can't answer many of your questions, but I can throw some light on a few.
Firstly there is a Dark Jedi/Sith that has opposed the GR in a lot of Invasions. Ever since he left the GR. Would anyone know in advance he'd be at the Invasion? I suspect not. So flagging this character is mostly an OOC situation. How many could genuinely say they could name all those they go into battle with? Would he be recognised once the battle commences? Most likely - but that would not (IMHO) stop anyone IC joining an Invasion.
The GR chooses its allies. TJO have been uncomfortable with some of their choices in the past - but they serve and don't choose who they can and cannot fight beside. It's been a constant tension within the Order. Some want to be flexible and accept DSers that fight for good to be on the same side, some don't. It's never been resolved.
I RPed with Taeli over a lot of very, very long threads as she slowly and surely turned back to the Light. It started when her 'real' parents died and genuinely happened organically. Finally she wanted to return to the Light and went through a programme of rehabilitation (just like a Dark Jedi is currently doing with the GA). And the GA has former DSers amongst it's numbers from memory.
So, logically (as I see it) there is every likelihood you'll turn up and have to fight a member of TJO - who are defending their own planet that the Mando's are Invading (which seems a relevant fact to point out). So IC what do you do? You might even face a GA Jedi or NFU? What is the correct IC approach then?
Like you, I'm just throwing these things out there for clarification - no more. And trying to add where I'm aware of what has happened.
I can't answer many of your questions, but I can throw some light on a few.
Firstly there is a Dark Jedi/Sith that has opposed the GR in a lot of Invasions. Ever since he left the GR. Would anyone know in advance he'd be at the Invasion? I suspect not. So flagging this character is mostly an OOC situation. How many could genuinely say they could name all those they go into battle with? Would he be recognised once the battle commences? Most likely - but that would not (IMHO) stop anyone IC joining an Invasion.
The GR chooses its allies. TJO have been uncomfortable with some of their choices in the past - but they serve and don't choose who they can and cannot fight beside. It's been a constant tension within the Order. Some want to be flexible and accept DSers that fight for good to be on the same side, some don't. It's never been resolved.
I RPed with Taeli over a lot of very, very long threads as she slowly and surely turned back to the Light. It started when her 'real' parents died and genuinely happened organically. Finally she wanted to return to the Light and went through a programme of rehabilitation (just like a Dark Jedi is currently doing with the GA). And the GA has former DSers amongst it's numbers from memory.
So, logically (as I see it) there is every likelihood you'll turn up and have to fight a member of TJO - who are defending their own planet that the Mando's are Invading (which seems a relevant fact to point out). So IC what do you do? You might even face a GA Jedi or NFU? What is the correct IC approach then?
Like you, I'm just throwing these things out there for clarification - no more. And trying to add where I'm aware of what has happened.
What's really awkward is having a Fett clone ARC adopted as a Mandalorian for what he identifies most strongly as.
Corey's OOC
And where were the spiders
Muad'Dib. Coren met him, heard he was a Sith, and completely left the meeting of the SSC/Mando.
And we're still fringer friendly, we're just growing, so more military is going to come, its the nature of the beast.
And we're still fringer friendly, we're just growing, so more military is going to come, its the nature of the beast.
B E A C O N
Oh bite me.
Harmon Tardai
Member
Sidestepping internal drama, I have a different Roche related question.
Is it typical for the invading faction to be able to dictate what the defenders have in the system?
Is it typical for the invading faction to be able to dictate what the defenders have in the system?
Keepin Corellia Weird
[member="Corey's OOC"] - Muad is on perma-LOA and last I knew was debating a redemption arc. That may be the stop-gap he had in place when he left. Do you have any *active* mando characters? Hell Muad could be dead ICly. I don't think you've contacted the faction he belonged to to get the actual story. This seems lije a really flinsy justification for personal goals. And again... There was ZERO dissemination of this supposed IC info to the GA. So you're breaking immersion and skating/flirting with meta-gaming concepts by issuing the "weappns free" statement.
You want a faction based on story, like you're always saying, and we all came here for? Take this IC. And when you do, I'll be there to drop the note on Keira being a Dark Jedi. So in reality, by your own logic, we should be neutral in this invasion because both factions harbor Dark Siders, or we should be going after both. Not cherry picking.
You want a faction based on story, like you're always saying, and we all came here for? Take this IC. And when you do, I'll be there to drop the note on Keira being a Dark Jedi. So in reality, by your own logic, we should be neutral in this invasion because both factions harbor Dark Siders, or we should be going after both. Not cherry picking.
The End Narrator
Narrator
Blah.
Removed.
Just, no one is squeaky clean. Everyone has skeletons in their closet.
Removed.
Just, no one is squeaky clean. Everyone has skeletons in their closet.
Gabriel Sionoma
Sheriff of Sulon
I don't see things entirely black and white in this circumstance. But I do know one thing: someone should feel free to write their character as they see fit, which I believe is the premise of this faction. Not begrudgingly be swayed from development because of veiled threats of reciprocity.
This is a faction of many, many writing different circumstances all leading towards the removal of the sith. How we get to that isn't based on the notions of one single mind. And it's not always a straight shot.
Despite the purpose of the faction being anti sith, there is more to this than that simple concept of destruction. So long and short, do you. And be prepared to reap the consequences. Which includes potential consequences for issuing weapons free on members of the GA because they decide to do what they think is right.
This is a faction of many, many writing different circumstances all leading towards the removal of the sith. How we get to that isn't based on the notions of one single mind. And it's not always a straight shot.
Despite the purpose of the faction being anti sith, there is more to this than that simple concept of destruction. So long and short, do you. And be prepared to reap the consequences. Which includes potential consequences for issuing weapons free on members of the GA because they decide to do what they think is right.
Kaile Vera
Whiskey Girl
I see this --
But then I think of what the staff promised the Galactic Alliance faction here:
I'd say hunting them out due to ooc knowledge without gaining it icly is pretty meta.
Especially when you are saying in the OOC discussions you "will" hunt them down.
I'd like to remind what the Faction Staff of this Faction said about Invasions.
Please don't turn into what we didn't want to happen to begin with and start stating things oocly in threads that can be taken via a perspective that you are trying to push people to not do what their char will do.. and then go out to hunt them.
If it happens icly naturally fine... but just rp.
Coren Starchaser said:
But then I think of what the staff promised the Galactic Alliance faction here:
Jacen Voidstalker said:
I'd say hunting them out due to ooc knowledge without gaining it icly is pretty meta.
Especially when you are saying in the OOC discussions you "will" hunt them down.
I'd like to remind what the Faction Staff of this Faction said about Invasions.
Please don't turn into what we didn't want to happen to begin with and start stating things oocly in threads that can be taken via a perspective that you are trying to push people to not do what their char will do.. and then go out to hunt them.
If it happens icly naturally fine... but just rp.
Keepin Corellia Weird
[member="Kaileann Vera"] - Did you read anything I posted, at all? The "sith" in qurstion hasn't posted in months. That's the flimiest pretense ever.
Keepin Corellia Weird
As well, the GR is in bed with darksifers. Actively posting ones to top it all. So.... How are they better than Mandos?
