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What would scare you more?

For the most part, nobody's going to seriously bust your balls over weight. There are some people on this site that have so much custom equipment, their character would literally be unable to move (The numbers were crunched).

In other news, a lot of people use artifact weaponry. It's not super rad. There seems to be a line-wide movement away from energy weapons in favor of the boring weaponry of our modern age.
 

Nyxie

【夢狐】
Be like me. Have both. I carry around a custom saber, and a custom alchemy sword. Simple and diverse.

Also, that's entirely untrue. I would absolutely, with all due respect, bust someone's balls if they're carrying, say, 100 kg of gear into a battle and aren't some sort of beast or genetic supermutant or Master Chief.
 
[member="Pyrrha Nikkita"]

You seem to be at times promoting the use of a sword while not promoting.

Also you guys seem to focus on only the negatives. While a lightsaber is weightless pretty much, think about this from a logic stand point, without a blade you would have to work very hard to become precise with a lightsaber (which we seem to all forget when first starting out.....everyone seems to be a natural when it does say that an untrained person would hurt themselves with a lightsaber more than an enemy.) No mater the route you take, there is training involved and from experience I know it is possible to use a normal one handed weapon with quick attacks, but doesn't have to be a short sword. A skilled sith with training could weild a swrod just as well as wield a lightsaber with the right amount of training. For Ares I would use this sword Now tell me this wouldn't be an ideal sword. It is long enough to not be a short sword, but short enough that in a trained sith's hands it could be just as deadly as a lightsaber.
 
Aynea Savan Xyhn said:
Be like me. Have both. I carry around a custom saber, and a custom alchemy sword. Simple and diverse.

Also, that's entirely untrue. I would absolutely, with all due respect, bust someone's balls if they're carrying, say, 100 kg of gear into a battle and aren't some sort of beast or genetic supermutant or Master Chief.
One can also train in armor like that. In the military you carry a good 100 pounds on a good day. (that is everything that they have to carry should they be walking.) and they can run faster than you and I because they train for it. So if they have threads where they train to use that kind of armor, I would be fine with it. If not, a pm is sent.

As well, Sith swords are heavy. Heavier than a standard beskad if made by standard materials. (by that I mean you donn use a really light metal) so even then, you would be taxed more than myself. And I am a small person. All I have to do is wait for you to slip up because you tire out, and then strike. Your done.
 
Darth Ares said:
[member="Pyrrha Nikkita"]

You seem to be at times promoting the use of a sword while not promoting.

Also you guys seem to focus on only the negatives. While a lightsaber is weightless pretty much, think about this from a logic stand point, without a blade you would have to work very hard to become precise with a lightsaber (which we seem to all forget when first starting out.....everyone seems to be a natural when it does say that an untrained person would hurt themselves with a lightsaber more than an enemy.) No mater the route you take, there is training involved and from experience I know it is possible to use a normal one handed weapon with quick attacks, but doesn't have to be a short sword. A skilled sith with training could weild a swrod just as well as wield a lightsaber with the right amount of training. For Ares I would use this sword Now tell me this wouldn't be an ideal sword. It is long enough to not be a short sword, but short enough that in a trained sith's hands it could be just as deadly as a lightsaber.
To be honest the reason that many are going negative with it isn't to cramp your style, it's just to point out why Jedi and Sith just don't use them anymore. If you really want to use one just go with what you want and do what you please. :)

In my very humble opinion I would be very sparing with how closely you try to follow the example of the Greek god. Instead of going for a spitting image of him, try to invoke his characteristics and such with your own way of doing things. Instead of having a (comparatively) heavy melee weapon like a sword, spear, or hammer, why not have a lightsaber that has different crystals that produce visual effects like shimmering or sparking to be scary?

Or have a lightsaber in one hand and maybe an extendable clawed gauntlet in the other hand? Gives you the ability to use a lightsaber like everyone else, but also the unpredictability of being a clawed savage in close combat. Lightsabers can cut through almost anything, which is another huge advantage compared to weapons based on metals (even if they can light on fire).

Ares was a god of brutal warfare and unending conflict that most people didn't really like, so just be as brutal as you can in whatever way you can and you'll be a proper Ares in no time!


I would rather be Mars than Ares, but that's your call :p
 
[member="Aynea Savan Xyhn"]
[member="Trenchcoat Man"]

But with that said, look at Ares he is still young, he is 260 pounds of muscle and 6'8." He is the definition of a beast or god among men (not saying god modding or anything) He is faster then most brutes due to his traing with Makashi, but come now, he is not built for speed. He is meant to be the personification of war. A large force that is relentless and fierce. Imagine if Achilles trained trained Darth Malgus and you will get an idea of the road I am following.


Seriously guys, I am loving all this input for this topic. You guys are giving me a lot to consider.
 
I won't deny the fact, yes anybody can be good with a sword just as well as a saber. However, a saber moves faster, as well, its thinner than that sword.

As I said I used a beskad, but I will never preform intricate moves that could be done with a saber. I will cut you in half with huge heavy strikes to beat you down. You do come up with a valid point. However from expierance, it's harder to fight with just a single sword. As I said, use a shield, or at least a lightsaber resistant bracer on both of your arms. (Cortosis much like the imperial knights)
 
Metus De'cal said:
In my very humble opinion I would be very sparing with how closely you try to follow the example of the Greek god. Instead of going for a spitting image of him, try to invoke his characteristics and such with your own way of doing things. Instead of having a (comparatively) heavy melee weapon like a sword, spear, or hammer, why not have a lightsaber that has different crystals that produce visual effects like shimmering or sparking to be scary?

I would rather be Mars than Ares, but that's your call :p

Wait, when did twilight vampires become scary? I kid, I get your point.


Also, Darth Mars? Sounds like an evil candy bar......oooo lets serve it to the One Sith and make billions!!!!


I understand your point though and you are right. When I say scary I meant more like, "Would you rather see a brute using a lightsaber or sword when Sith Leaping at you?" I personally would pee my pants more to a guy with a sword coming down on me then a small lightsaber.
 
Scared at a sharpened piece of metal, or a blade made out of plasma that can cut through just about anything and is easily concealable.

I'm gonna pick the saber.....
 

Nyxie

【夢狐】
Not entirely true. Let's go into hypotheticals. I make a Sith Rapier.

That rapier is going to be a Dark Side nexus.
Your lightsaber is not.

That rapier is going to be light enough for the weight to mean almost nothing.
Nothing new for your lightsaber here.

That rapier is always going to have those properties in a Force-nullified area (E.g.; Ysalamir).
Your lightsaber is screwed if your crystal is attuned to you.

That rapier can have all manner of Sith sorcery applied to it.
Your lightsaber can only be a lightsaber.

The lightsaber is predictable; it's always going to have one effect - giant glowstick of doom.
The Sith sword is NOT.

All in all, if you sacrifice the stopping power of weight for the sting of speed, the Sith rapier is going to be statistically a more sound choice.

It really all depends on what in particular you want and how you plan to use it.

PS: It's also good to note, while a saber is compact, it's nowhere near as intimidating as a large, ornate, visceral piece of steel can be. Glowsticks vs Guillotines.
 
Darth Ares said:
Wait, when did twilight vampires become scary? I kid, I get your point.


Also, Darth Mars? Sounds like an evil candy bar......oooo lets serve it to the One Sith and make billions!!!!


I understand your point though and you are right. When I say scary I meant more like, "Would you rather see a brute using a lightsaber or sword when Sith Leaping at you?" I personally would pee my pants more to a guy with a sword coming down on me then a small lightsaber.
Twilight is scary when you think about how it's actually a real thing and not some joke about proper vampires :p

And as for a scare factor, yeah a sword is more unconventional and could be scarier to some, but if the Sith is decked out and looks like a scary dude it almost doesn't matter what he wields. If I threw a rock or a metal door at you a lightsaber could cut through it no prob. The enhanced sword might, but it would take much more force. Basically imagine the scene with Malgus in the trailer that your avatar is from, except with swords instead and having to either dodge or use more energy to deal with the objects that were thrown at him.

Instead of being halted by physical objects, you cut through em with your lightsaber and keep moving!

In the end I would go with a mixture of both. Maybe a metal shield and a lightsaber, or a lightsaber and those clawed gauntlets. Why not blend both worlds?


Aynea Savan Xyhn said:
Not entirely true. Let's go into hypotheticals. I make a Sith Rapier.

That rapier is going to be a Dark Side nexus.
Your lightsaber is not.

That rapier is going to be light enough for the weight to mean almost nothing.
Nothing new for your lightsaber here.

That rapier is always going to have those properties in a Force-nullified area (E.g.; Ysalamir).
Your lightsaber is screwed if your crystal is attuned to you.

That rapier can have all manner of Sith sorcery applied to it.
Your lightsaber can only be a lightsaber.

All in all, if you sacrifice the stopping power of weight for the sting of speed, all in all, the Sith rapier is going to be statistically a more sound choice.

It really all depends on what in particular you want and how you plan to use it.

PS: It's also good to note, while a saber is compact, it's nowhere near as intimidating as a large, ornate, visceral piece of steel can be. Glowsticks vs Guillotines.
In that hypothetical though, it would have the same disadvantages of any edged weapon and especially the rapier; get past the point or edge and it's almost useless. A lightsaber is dangerous no matter what part of the blade you touch, with only the hilt being non-deadly. And with the variety of crystals that don't even have to be attuned to you there is a lot of versatility there too.

A glowstick is quite menacing when it can cut through anything you present to it, including the guillotine.
 
Crystals can be increased through alchemy. It's possible, but nobody does it for some reason. As well as the hilt. Look as the Soulsaber. Looks like a standard saber just the hilt is ornate, but once you activate it, everybody within 10 meters is effected either by anger and rage, or power drained and having one massive headache.

So don't say that a saber can not be influenced by the force. That would be incorrect on so many levels.
 
Or... you could always just be inventive....

And have a sith sword with a button in the handle that activates two containment fields, one over the blade, one a centimeter over it, and a plasma generator that fills the two fields.

I.E; A sith sword that turns into a lightsaber with the press of a button.
 

Nyxie

【夢狐】
Or even, ya know, two modular blades on either side of a lightsaber hilt, with the emitter running down the middle. Which is a lot easier....

"WHY HAVEN'T I THOUGHT OF THAT BEFORE?!"

Because potato.
 
Mrrew said:
Or... you could always just be inventive....

And have a sith sword with a button in the handle that activates two containment fields, one over the blade, one a centimeter over it, and a plasma generator that fills the two fields.

I.E; A sith sword that turns into a lightsaber with the press of a button.
Aynea Savan Xyhn said:
Or even, ya know, two blades on either side of a lightsaber hilt, with the emitter running down the middle. Which is a lot easier....

"WHY HAVEN'T I THOUGHT OF THAT BEFORE?!"

Because potato.
Both ideas are pretty interesting, but seem a bit complicated in both construction and possibly redundant in use. If the point of a Sith sword is that it can stand up to lightsabers as well, then it doesn't really need the actual energy. And with a thinner field like that it would be easier to disrupt compared to a much thicker beam of energy or to destroy with a thinner metal blade.

Not trying to be a jerk, just throwing my thoughts out there.
 
Complications and complexity. Even if you do have the sword there, then all you will end up with the cutting power of a saber, but the weight of a Sithsword PLUS a saber.
 

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