Mandalorians

[Ali Hadrix]

[member=Suravi Teigra]

To take a break from the back-and-forth...

What I'm waiting for is Ali's government superiors to reach out to her and discuss things with her. Ask her to come in, she'll counter with a meeting on neutral ground.

I'm not saying she's not going to come in, I'm not saying she's not going to be involved in the agreed tribunal/trial/whatever they want to call it. But let's work it out in the writing, I'm not just going to have her waltz into the Chancellor's office and say "Arrest me because I done been a war criminal."

 

[Khyros Sunblade]

A military leader is not going to be expected to wait for discussion with a higher when an imminent threat presents itself, as was showcased when the Mandalorians had already walked through the door.

This is decidedly true.

Warning those individuals encroaching in force what will happen if they continue their transgression is standard operating procedure. They get one fair chance, and when they brush you off, you take action. Are you not realizing that at the time this happened there was a literal war fleet parked outside? Or that Mandalorian forces had already entered the station, and had begun cutting power to reactors and manipulating the station from within? Do you honestly have no idea what was happening at the time Ali tried to reach out and the Mando leaders ignored her?

While this is in essence true, there is a difference in saying something like "Any further hostile action will be taken as an act of war and be responded to appropriately" and having something that is truly insulting said to them.

Should a military commander suck it up and not let him/herself be goaded like that? Hell yes. Is it appropriate to say such things? No.

I realize that Ali isn't a diplomat, but that is the crux of the issue for Khyros, she went that little bit farther that was over the line.

 

[The End Narrator]

[member="Jaccer Ramirez"]

Mine was better.

 

[Eugen Aker]

[member="Darth Vulkan"] I agree, which is why I support the move to have Hadrix tried in an ad hoc court that includes judges from the Republic to ensure fairness (it's based off a setup used at the Hague in real life). At the very least the court is composed completely of neutral members supported by both factions.

[member="Ali Hadrix"] Good points, remember them all for your trial.

 

[Laira Darkhold]

[member="Suravi Teigra"]

If the Grandmaster of a Jedi Order devoted to peace can't be trusted to be fair, you seriously need to rethink some things. If there is a republic Judge "to ensure fairness" then there would also be a Mandalorian Judge. Honestly don't care how its set up, just throwing it out there, that if the Republic is so Paranoid that if won't trust its allies who are strongly devoted to peace and justice to conduct a fair trial, well... then maybe you can see how it got so bad between the Republic and the Mandalorians.

 

[Eugen Aker]

[member="Darth Vulkan"]

If Hadrix was found innocent of all charges by a neutral party like Heavenshield, then would the Mandalorians stop bothering the Republic about her?

ICily, Suravi despises Jedi just only a little less than Sith, so that's not a good name to throw out there.

 

[Laira Darkhold]

[member="Suravi Teigra"]

Probably. And the SSC is the Republic's only allies at this point. Might shouldn't despise them like Lasedri despised the Mandos. See how well that went?

 

[Eugen Aker]

[member="Darth Vulkan"] See, I have a problem with "probably". While you think it's fishy, would the Mandalorians still put Hadrix up to that neutral tribunal if she was handed to you all directly?

 

[Laira Darkhold]

[member="Suravi Teigra"]

You are thinking about this too much. Do something IC, it doesn't have to be planned out. I have no idea what would happen if Hadrix got handed over because I haven't put any thought into it or spoken to anyone about that scenario IC or OOC other than to comment on how unlikely it is.

 

[Eugen Aker]

[member="Darth Vulkan"] it's okay, I have an idea. I am approaching this from an IC standpoint, which is one of the reasons I'm approaching you on Alderaan. Just might take a moment, because I'm working on some subs to take out your One Sith homies.

 

[Laira Darkhold]

[member="Suravi Teigra"]

They pay. GR gets mad at me when I ask for money to fight for them.

 

[Eugen Aker]

[member="Darth Vulkan"]

Did you ask before or after the privateer proposal by Sparrow?

 

[Laira Darkhold]

[member="Suravi Teigra"]

Contruum was October.

 

[Eugen Aker]

[member="Darth Vulkan"] Before my time. Well, we'd probably be happy to have you aboard now. Come pillage and loot for the GR.

 

[Laira Darkhold]

[member="Suravi Teigra"]

LOLOLOLOL

Maybe. Start that thread on alderaan and we will talk IC.

 

[Ali Hadrix]

[member="Suravi Teigra"]

They pay. GR gets mad at me when I ask for money to fight for them.

I can't possibly imagine why, that makes no sense. Fair pay for fair work, right? Jesus, Gen screwed us with crap like that.

 

[The End Narrator]

If Ali is found innocent of all charges - the Mandalorians will be your last concern, I can promise you that.

<----This is the person you will have to worry about.

^_^

 

[Eugen Aker]

[member="Darth Vulkan"] Mkay, going to work on subs tonight, then I'll have something up by tomorrow at the latest.

 

[Ali Hadrix]

This is decidedly true.


While this is in essence true, there is a difference in saying something like "Any further hostile action will be taken as an act of war and be responded to appropriately" and having something that is truly insulting said to them.

Should a military commander suck it up and not let him/herself be goaded like that? Hell yes. Is it appropriate to say such things? No.

I realize that Ali isn't a diplomat, but that is the crux of the issue for Khyros, she went that little bit farther that was over the line.

I totally get his stance in that example; it's a view that borders that fine line between politically driven and legitimate breach of this or that regulation, etc, with either side having fair enough points.

 

[Ali Hadrix]

If Ali is found innocent of all charges - the Mandalorians will be your last concern, I can promise you that.

<----This is the person you will have to worry about.

^_^

Thought that person was dead.