OOC - Woe to the Vanquished

[RC 212]

So let me get this straight. I was present the chat right now that contains our pertinent info on the arrangements. Nowhere does it say you will bring a massive fleet.

No where does it say you have a super-fortified prison.

In fact the only agreement I saw was that Colap and Cryax would both be released in an attempt to appease you after you got irked about our last thread.

Please stop this petty bickering down to the last detail. This is not an invasion, this is not RL, this is a fantasy world we live in and if you cant get that through your head, y'all should probably take break for a few days and focus on RL.

So far the Black suns have had minimal if any participation of their members at all. Most posts do not have a location tag of any kind. Most posts that have poor grammar probably get skipped by people who don’t want to read a massive wall of gibberish. The Ravens have at least ten or eleven unique PC's on deck. The Suns have maybe five.

If this were an invasion I am certain we would win by cooperation of writers and sheer numbers. The Republic lost this way to the One Sith so many times before.

This is war, many will perish but please stop obsessing over details and just have some fun!

 

[Darth Morgoth]

I really dont care I just want to blow up a prison with a tank and droid army plain and simple. In my opinion it doesnt matter how it was planned OOC because in the end things dont go according to plan. So everyone just needs to play there parts as they will (within reason) and see how this plays out

 

[Domino]

This was literally like the third thing we talked about [member="Colap Ticon"]
So this is either willful ignorance on your part about a conversation you took a large part in, or you decided not to follow after a certain point and only payed attention to the part where you're getting out. I'm also going to point out that nowhere did your side mention bringing half their entire navel force. It just smacks of you figuring out how many guys we have without saying your own force size so you can bring 10 times as much and just dogpile, which is what looks to have happened. So now I've re-evaluated what a 'relatively minor monitoring fleet' is, and given the recent incursions into the Maw, I can easily see it being buffed up slightly, to say, 15 ships or so.

Regardless, here's most of our conversations, all of which you were present for. I've highlighted major points for ease of reference.


[11/9/2014 10:52:28 PM] Luke Hales [Lysle]: But yeah, as Colap said, about the dominion, that doesn't need to be discussed immediately, but we would like to discuss it briefly later on.

As to the rescue thread, we are looking to sort out the details of it
[11/9/2014 10:52:45 PM] Colap Ticon (Ravens): where when who what why
[11/9/2014 10:52:46 PM] aterfeles: yeah
[11/9/2014 10:54:15 PM] aterfeles: kessel, there's not much there for over-zealous rescuers to mess up and it seems a natural place to send prisoners we arent just going to execute.
[11/9/2014 10:54:54 PM] aterfeles: I would like to ask that you not try to attack the spice mines themselves though and to give us time to interrogate
[11/9/2014 10:55:02 PM] Luke Hales [Lysle]: Classic slave mines
[11/9/2014 10:55:12 PM] Luke Hales [Lysle]: Ah so it won't be in the mines?
[11/9/2014 10:55:13 PM] aterfeles: well droids these days
[11/9/2014 10:55:19 PM] aterfeles: yeah
[11/9/2014 10:58:26 PM] aterfeles: I was thinknig just a standard detainment faculity on the far side.
[11/9/2014 10:59:07 PM] Colap Ticon (Ravens): so me and cryax will be in the same cell right?
[11/9/2014 10:59:33 PM] Colap Ticon (Ravens): just made my thread exit post by the way
[11/9/2014 10:59:34 PM] aterfeles: same wing at least
[11/9/2014 10:59:55 PM] Colap Ticon (Ravens): okay how about cells next to each other so we can at least talk while the thread starts up
[11/9/2014 11:01:44 PM] aterfeles: sure I guess, I'd still like to interrogate, so far we know very little about who's attacking us IC. Just some names and a location for a potential capital
[11/9/2014 11:03:45 PM] Luke Hales [Lysle]: As for the rescue mission, I don't plan to go balls to the wall the moment it starts up, I plan on organising the teams before dispatching them, so did you want to do the interrogation in the same thread while the RR are off elsewhere getting ready?
[11/9/2014 11:04:12 PM] Star Lord: sorry, doing stuffs
[11/9/2014 11:05:06 PM] aterfeles: mmmm, yeah, that'd be easiest
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[11/9/2014 11:28:10 PM] Colap Ticon (Ravens): want to throw it up now and just take it slow?
[11/9/2014 11:29:02 PM] aterfeles: if you like, I'm trying to work on other threads at the moment before they slip away

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[11/11/2014 1:50:57 AM] Luke Hales [Lysle]: I can wait in that case
[11/11/2014 9:53:21 PM] Luke Hales [Lysle]: Any specific information i can get on the location of Cryax and Colap? for purposes of description when the thread is thrown up
[11/11/2014 10:13:35 PM] aterfeles: umm
[11/11/2014 10:14:23 PM] aterfeles: maximum security penal faculity on kessel disassociated from the mines in function and distance.
[11/11/2014 10:15:24 PM] Luke Hales [Lysle]: What would it look like? defences etc?
[11/11/2014 10:17:28 PM] aterfeles: Wall, fences, gun towers and bunkers. guards in pressurized armor.
[11/11/2014 10:17:41 PM] aterfeles: AA
[11/11/2014 10:18:00 PM] aterfeles: localized shield probably
[11/11/2014 10:18:46 PM] aterfeles: We also have a relativly minor fleet there just because of the spice and proximity to the Maw for monitoring and defence/interception/control
[11/11/2014 10:19:47 PM] aterfeles: Basically stuff that'll delay your guys long enough to actually have a decent interrogation and we can learn some of your things
[11/11/2014 10:20:50 PM] Luke Hales [Lysle]: Wow, you went the whole mile
[11/11/2014 10:21:12 PM] Luke Hales [Lysle]: So whats the gravity like? I understand some of Kessel is vacuum, and Kessel is a large asteroid right?
[11/11/2014 10:22:08 PM] aterfeles: its a partial vaccume, you can survive but not easilly and you wouldn't want to do a jog in it. gravity would probably be something like 2 thirds normal
[11/11/2014 10:22:44 PM] aterfeles: [Tuesday, November 11, 2014 10:20 PM] Luke Hales [Lysle]:

<<< Wow, you went the whole mileIf you're going to do something...
Besides, got to protect that spice, and the Maw.
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[11/12/2014 5:06:52 PM] Luke Hales [Lysle]: Rescue OP be PVP or Objective based?
[11/12/2014 5:06:59 PM] Luke Hales [Lysle]: Or a mix-up of both
[11/12/2014 5:07:28 PM] Luke Hales [Lysle]: I think PVP-Objective would be neat, having people work together to get the shields down, handle the fleet, you know
[11/12/2014 8:11:47 PM] aterfeles: I was thinking story based
[11/12/2014 8:12:02 PM] aterfeles: and then having the fleet chase you off towards the end
[11/12/2014 8:19:51 PM] Luke Hales [Lysle]: As this will involving us attacking a compound of yours, shall I classify it as a skirmish?
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[11/12/2014 8:21:29 PM] Luke Hales [Lysle]: The Ravens don't plan on sneaking in
[11/12/2014 8:21:48 PM] Luke Hales [Lysle]: Infiltration is not our forte
[11/12/2014 8:21:58 PM] aterfeles: You want to assault a secure and heavilly guarded faculity?
[11/12/2014 8:21:59 PM] Luke Hales [Lysle]: Thugs aren't smart enough to tread quietly, yah feel



No objections, no asking for things to be lessened or scope of attack to be broadened, too late to ask otherwise once the race has started.

And yet it seems like everything we worked out you're either surprised at us doing as discussed or ignoring your own obligations/reported plan and now you're calling me out on them and saying I'm a liar after everyone said to drop it? There are so many things I want to say to you [member="Colap Ticon"] that just aren't site appropriate right now.

I will say this. For the second time in two years of writing here, I am genuinely upset with another writer. Congratulations.

 

[RC 212]

[member="Domino"]

Cry me a river. Just because it was a skype chat doesn’t make it official. Plus I was gone for that last half.

Onwards!

 

[Darth Morgoth]

[member="Domino"]
How did it go from

[11/9/2014 10:58:26 PM] aterfeles: I was thinknig just a standard detainment faculity on the far side.

To

[11/11/2014 10:17:28 PM] aterfeles: Wall, fences, gun towers and bunkers. guards in pressurized armor

But here is my thing, there is no way somthing on this scale would not break into an all out battle, with the amount of different characters jumping in and everything else to to hold to an OOC skype script that half of us never heard of is impossible. So just rp have fun with it work with what you got and move on from there. If you win you win, if you lose oh well. Rp is not a scripted story. Its every character acting for themselves, for there own purposes. unexpected things happen and from experience as an rp'er in general my advice is deal with it and move on there is no use in crying over spilled milk. And that goes to anyone playing the "OOC agreement card". I for one have no plans of taking it slow or holding back. I was told my faction was going to a big fight, I brought and army, now did that get spoken of? No but no one but me can control wether I bring all my toys to a small fight. And that is my point things dont go according to plan because in the end its the writers who decide the RP not a few ppl in a skype chat way back when, its the here and the now or nothing.

 

[Cryax Bane]

[member="Domino"] I was briefed on what was happening but I have to say, no one from your side reached out to me in PMs about any interrogation scenes.

My first few posts were just me in my cell, thinkin' thoughts and then me in my cell, just wisecracking with Colap. And these two were spanned out over a day. I left ample time for those scenes to start up. When no interrogators showed up I assumed it wasn't gonna happen.

And it's not like I'm going to reach out to you guys and say, "Hey, can you horribly torture my character for a few scenes? Thanks!"

 

[Domino]

[member="Colap Ticon"]
So because we made an agreement off the site it doesn't matter?

Thanks for basically proving yourself to be a liar.
Enjoy your rp without me, I'm not wasting my time with someone like you anymore.

 

[Sarge Potteiger]

This got disappointingly uncivil very quick.

Be polite, and treat each other like adults. Warning points will be issued if this continues.

 

[RC 212]

[member="Sarge Potteiger"]

Roger that. I apologize.

 

[Evelynn]

^ What the RPJ said.

 

[Lysle of the Hydian Way]

I would like to ask you politely [member="Domino"], to please take down that discussion from Skype as it will only incite arguments. This is role-play, and it is much like a video game, albeit without the video. We should all relax, and enjoy yourselves.

 

[Domino]

No.
This is information that should have been shared before anything started IC, it not being out there is what started all this non-sense.

 

[Darth Morgoth]

[member="Domino"] are one of your guys going to acknowledge my tank? I just blasted at one of your turrents andno one is even responding to it

 

[Daxton Bane]

I am a bit confused. I was under the impression that this was just normal prison, and was rping based on that information.

 

[sabrina]

[member="Domino"] I was briefed on what was happening but I have to say, no one from your side reached out to me in PMs about any interrogation scenes.

My first few posts were just me in my cell, thinkin' thoughts and then me in my cell, just wisecracking with Colap. And these two were spanned out over a day. I left ample time for those scenes to start up. When no interrogators showed up I assumed it wasn't gonna happen.

And it's not like I'm going to reach out to you guys and say, "Hey, can you horribly torture my character for a few scenes? Thanks!"

I did with Darth Banshee, it's actually fun. Though that did surprise me.

for that I like to thank
[member="Ayden Cater"]
[member="Noah Corek"]
[member="Memorial"]
[member="Brad Solo"]
[member="Sarge Potteiger"]

 

[sabrina]

[member="Domino"]

Cry me a river. Just because it was a skype chat doesn’t make it official. Plus I was gone for that last half.

Onwards!

Yes it does, as that is an agreemnet

 

[Darth Morgoth]

Still wanna know what yall gonna do for my tank

 

[sabrina]

[member="Darth Morgoth"] I am still waiting for my frigate, and my npcs

 

[Darth Morgoth]

Im ground forces I have no control of that. but my tank has blasted your prison with cannons known to take out ships with one blast and got no response [member="sabrina"]

 

[sabrina]

[member="Darth Morgoth"] I slept on it I am out of this thread, as I can`t be bothered. Though I do know if this happens in an invasion the rpj button will be pressed.