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Sith=Evil? What makes a sith a sith?
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Ayessa Valen
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Dead before I even got a master/teacher, LOL
[member=Darth Vornskr]
[member=Darth Vornskr]
Darth Hauntruss
Wraith of the Sith
Late to party is late. But here goes. This btw is rich coming from me - seeing Hauntruss is 100% an Evil Sith character - who is completely ok with being a murderous psycho because she is the type of Sith or Villain more accurately who believes what she is doing is 100% correct. But here goes:
[member="Ayessa Valen"]
When you create a character - at least for me, archetype comes first and then comes the aesthetic - being a Sith is an aesthetic, being a Evil Antagonist is a archetype. One can be without the other. You can be evil and not Sith, you can be Sith and not be "evil". Although everyone else will label you as evil by default for being a Sith. But, there in lies the struggle for creating and then developing your character.
The best advice I can give you is - decide what is Evil for your character.
For example take Darth Hauntruss [member="Darth Vornskr"], on the spectrum of "Evil", she and Vornskr (I think most would agree) are evil with a huge faking capital E. But they are also an extreme type of Sith - violent, maniacal, power-hungry and merciless without an inch of thought of life. Hauntruss would sacrifice her closest Sith Allies if it meant she would gain an advantage against her most hated foes. She committed mass genocide just for the purpose of regenerating her old body. Hauntruss is an extreme example of Evil Sith. But you can be evil and sith in a different fashion- or not be evil at all in the classical sense - just diabolical.
A good example of this is [member="Tirdarius"] or when [member="Ashin Varanin"] was Empress of the Old Sith Empire. I would call this characters antagonists but, I wouldn't label them as Evil - they are, as I suggested, more diabolical. Also btw, archetype names are like genres - subjective and bs.
Decide for your character what is the limiter to being Evil and let that influence how you RP. I RP Hauntruss doing vile and heinous things, because Hauntruss is a vile and heinous character.
[member="Ayessa Valen"]
When you create a character - at least for me, archetype comes first and then comes the aesthetic - being a Sith is an aesthetic, being a Evil Antagonist is a archetype. One can be without the other. You can be evil and not Sith, you can be Sith and not be "evil". Although everyone else will label you as evil by default for being a Sith. But, there in lies the struggle for creating and then developing your character.
The best advice I can give you is - decide what is Evil for your character.
For example take Darth Hauntruss [member="Darth Vornskr"], on the spectrum of "Evil", she and Vornskr (I think most would agree) are evil with a huge faking capital E. But they are also an extreme type of Sith - violent, maniacal, power-hungry and merciless without an inch of thought of life. Hauntruss would sacrifice her closest Sith Allies if it meant she would gain an advantage against her most hated foes. She committed mass genocide just for the purpose of regenerating her old body. Hauntruss is an extreme example of Evil Sith. But you can be evil and sith in a different fashion- or not be evil at all in the classical sense - just diabolical.
A good example of this is [member="Tirdarius"] or when [member="Ashin Varanin"] was Empress of the Old Sith Empire. I would call this characters antagonists but, I wouldn't label them as Evil - they are, as I suggested, more diabolical. Also btw, archetype names are like genres - subjective and bs.
Decide for your character what is the limiter to being Evil and let that influence how you RP. I RP Hauntruss doing vile and heinous things, because Hauntruss is a vile and heinous character.
Aspiring Jedi
[member="Ayessa Valen"] I did warn you, lass. Not all of the Sith are inclined to leave Black Rose alone. They're no threat in the direct sense, but they join the Jedi in being a fly in the ointment. Many Sith want them gone. Apparently [member="Darth Vornskr"] is among them. Do be careful out there!
[member="Darth Hauntruss"] I love you, too
[member="Darth Hauntruss"] I love you, too
I'd like the BR more if they didn't kidnap me and send my lightsaber in a box to my master
[member="Darth Veles"] ಠ_ಠ
[member="Darth Veles"] ಠ_ಠ
Aspiring Jedi
[member="Knight Mullarus"] Proves they're not Sith. The OS would have sent your head rather than your lightsaber. But [member="Darth Vornskr"] would have made sure to give you a haircut first. He likes that sort of flair.
[member="Tirdarius"]
Funny thing is, Mullarus' captor wanted to send his head. [member="Kendrix"] has the hots for Mullarus and convinced him not to
Funny thing is, Mullarus' captor wanted to send his head. [member="Kendrix"] has the hots for Mullarus and convinced him not to
Aspiring Jedi
[member="Knight Mullarus"] Well, go figure. You got lucky that time, lad. Next time...
I am glad you're with the Sith, though. We could always use a few more voices of reason around here.
I am glad you're with the Sith, though. We could always use a few more voices of reason around here.
Ayessa Valen
Active Member
That is exactly why I'm debating being "sith" in the first place!!!! I wouldn't have even considered cutting anyones head off.
[member=Tirdarius] [member=knight mullarus]
[member=Tirdarius] [member=knight mullarus]
Darth Hauntruss
Wraith of the Sith
[member="Ayessa Valen"]
Lolololo. Don't define your character on the actions of others. Define your own evil and go with it.
Lolololo. Don't define your character on the actions of others. Define your own evil and go with it.
Isamu Baelor
Protector of The Iron Realm
The Black Rose also like to forcefully turn people into half-cat thing hybrids.
I don't know if even the One Sith would descend into such vile acts of wickedness.
I don't know if even the One Sith would descend into such vile acts of wickedness.
Aspiring Jedi
[member="Ayessa Valen"] You will, eventually. Whether you're Black Rose, One Sith, Jedi or whatever, eventually comes a hard choice: make the lethal decision, or watch as others suffer because of it. People talk of sleepless nights lost because they killed someone they should not have done, but that's nothing compared to those nights bereft of rest that stem from failing to take the life you should have done, and knowing that their every action thereafter is your fault.
Trust me, you'll make the right call one day. The life of a true monster will be in your hands, and only if you're weak will you allow them to life and cause others to suffer. Sith make the hard choice: better to kill a monster and live with their blood on your hands than to let them walk away and have more on theirs because of your 'mercy'.
Trust me, you'll make the right call one day. The life of a true monster will be in your hands, and only if you're weak will you allow them to life and cause others to suffer. Sith make the hard choice: better to kill a monster and live with their blood on your hands than to let them walk away and have more on theirs because of your 'mercy'.
[member="Ayessa Valen"]
Whichever path you decide to take:
Whichever path you decide to take:
Ayessa Valen
Active Member
IM HAVING ANOTHER IDENTITY CRISIS.
Aspiring Jedi
[member="Ayessa Valen"] That's why you're an Acolyte, and not a full Sith yet, lass. You don't know yourself, because we haven't shown you who that is.
Darth Hauntruss
Wraith of the Sith
[member="Ayessa Valen"]
YOU CANT FIGURE OUT YOUR CHARACTER IN ONE OOC THREAD. GET OUT THERE AND RP - LEARN, EXPERIMENT, RETCON AND MOVE ON!
IN SHORT - GET OUT THERE AND KICK SOME BUTT AND FORCE ROCK THE GALAXY.
YOU CANT FIGURE OUT YOUR CHARACTER IN ONE OOC THREAD. GET OUT THERE AND RP - LEARN, EXPERIMENT, RETCON AND MOVE ON!
IN SHORT - GET OUT THERE AND KICK SOME BUTT AND FORCE ROCK THE GALAXY.
Aspiring Jedi
Or don't. The ones that rock the Galaxy are usually of the kind you despiseDarth Hauntruss said:
Mantic Dorn
Old school...
Here is my take on this interesting topic.
Evil is hard to define for sure. But good and evil is also what defines SW lots. The battle between dark and light is often compared to the battle between good and evil. That makes the topic tricky.
Now, in my own oppinion,
Most Sith, like dark jedi do follow the dark side.
In SW the dark side nurtures and promotes emotions like envy, hatred, fear etc and those emotions more often then not lead to non-good actions.
The dark side is not something that lets you do what you want, it corrupts. Anakin being the prime example but Bane and other characters are good examples on characters becoming more and more in-humane the more they embrace the dark side. I think we can call them mostly evil characters due to their actions that is happening because of their dark emotions.
Sith is a sort of school, teaching mostly about the dark side. So naturally this goes hand in hand with often committing evil actions.
I think there are a group of neutral sith around as well. Since they dont exclusively follow the dark side they are also more neutral in their actions.
But really, how interesting is gray..?
"WOOOPS!"
did I say that loud!?!? O-0
Chaos is really very forgiving and dont point finger on these things. RP what you feel like and the rest of us will have to deal with it one way or the other
[member="Ayessa Valen"]
Evil is hard to define for sure. But good and evil is also what defines SW lots. The battle between dark and light is often compared to the battle between good and evil. That makes the topic tricky.
Now, in my own oppinion,
Most Sith, like dark jedi do follow the dark side.
In SW the dark side nurtures and promotes emotions like envy, hatred, fear etc and those emotions more often then not lead to non-good actions.
The dark side is not something that lets you do what you want, it corrupts. Anakin being the prime example but Bane and other characters are good examples on characters becoming more and more in-humane the more they embrace the dark side. I think we can call them mostly evil characters due to their actions that is happening because of their dark emotions.
Sith is a sort of school, teaching mostly about the dark side. So naturally this goes hand in hand with often committing evil actions.
I think there are a group of neutral sith around as well. Since they dont exclusively follow the dark side they are also more neutral in their actions.
But really, how interesting is gray..?
"WOOOPS!"
did I say that loud!?!? O-0
Chaos is really very forgiving and dont point finger on these things. RP what you feel like and the rest of us will have to deal with it one way or the other
[member="Ayessa Valen"]
Ayessa Valen
Active Member
I'M GOING TO STAY IN THE ONE SITH AND JUST RP MY HEART OUT. I WILL LIVE MY LIFE. MAKE FRIENDS. LOVERS. ENEMIES. I WILL ROCK THE WHOLE GALAXY.
Darth Hauntruss
Wraith of the Sith
[member="Ayessa Valen"]
ROCK ON SITH-CHAN! ALSO CAAAAAAAPSSSSSSSSSS LOOOOOOOOOOCK
ROCK ON SITH-CHAN! ALSO CAAAAAAAPSSSSSSSSSS LOOOOOOOOOOCK
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