The Imperial Remnant

[Solariel Eldara]

[member="Alva Calvarona"], I think you're all still failing to see my point. I don't want to take over the Remnant. I just want to see Imperial story lines and threads with some semblance of context and a goal for the future. The only way the Empire is going to return to activity here is if it has a goal and is actively working to accomplish it.

I've set a goal for myself. I'll be actively working toward accomplishing it. Just having that one goal that isn't even related to taking over leadership of the remnant, an IC goal, has gained quite a bit of support and momentum for the Empire.

I'm here to role play. That's it.

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

It feels like everyone forgets that Pallaeon led a faction called the Remnant at its height. But if its a damper then its not the biggest thing after all.

It was called the Remnant by their enemies in the Republic. They never called themselves that, they still considered themselves the true Galactic Empire.
Just like Byzantine Empire is a later term, Constantine XI still called it the 'Roman Empire' even then when it was neither Roman nor an Empire.

 

[Alva Calvarona]

[member="Julius Octavian"]

Now you're being quite rude and hostile pointlessly.

I did not invite you to that dominion, don't assume we're begging for help or desperate. Darth Arya is supportive of the IR right now but was only just made aware by Valiens that the dominion is defunct.

The dominions main point was to promote activity and tell a story, the faction was recalled so we abandoned it to restart it with the angle of the thread we're doing now. Its not a dominion, we don't get a planet out of it, its not our objective just to spam posts and expand worlds with little worth to it. You're purposefully insulting us now and its not appreciated especially after I just got done saying I wouldn't mind you taking charge if that was what it took to end this pointless split.

 

[Solariel Eldara]

[member="Alva Calvarona"], I'm here to role play. When I get the role play posted I will post a link here.

I'm not here to argue.

I'm not here to target the Remnant.

I'm not here to play for or against the Remnant.

What happens IC will happen IC. I don't know what will happen. That's up to the people involved.

The only thing I find irritating is that now that the Remnant sees that people are interested in playing Imperials, they're JUST NOW springing to action and trying to get people involved.

The discussion is over. This has nothing to do with the Remnant. It has to do with Julius Octavian returning IC. What happens after that point is unknown even to me. Maybe he'll join the Remnant. Maybe he will decide to destroy it. Maybe he will die in battle. I have no set plans.

 

[Alva Calvarona]

[member="Valiens Nantaris"]

He was still in charge of it was my point. Plus I wasn't the person who picked it, I'm just in charge now.

[member="Julius Octavian"]

No we were making a good go right now at bringing the Empire to activity, you've quite clearly said how you want to bring the Remnant in line and how you consider us warlords.

There's no reason you can't work with us to get the Imperial membership active together, you're stubbornly insisting on causing conflict between them and seeing one or the other die out of conflict. That's not healthy. Tell me one reason your goal can't work by joining the IR and helping rework the faction and setting it up and then rping from the group? Tell me one reason you can't, because I've seen all about how a new faction and the support you have but why does this split and competition for that support have to be a thing? Why can't we all reform the current Imperial faction and get a huge boost in the activity with whatever we make from it?

You are targetting us, you've said it again and again at some point its going to be us or you. You're adamant that you ave to be against us but won't give a reason why. Its not IC

If it was IC you'd try to make people understand why its necessary instead of just brushing it away with "its IC"

 

[Adar Bralor]

[member="Alva Calvarona"]

....What are you talking about?

You've been trying to get the people in this thread to join up with the remnant, so I am both explaining why I'm sticking with this one and why I don't want to be with the remnant. I've no got a bone to pick, I'm explaining.

Seriously, lets be civil before this blows up.

 

[Solariel Eldara]

[member="Alva Calvarona"] ...... "Remnant" means the Empire no longer exists. The Remnant would be a group of Warlords since there is no Emperor.

 

[Edward Vyperion]

Ugh...

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

People, let's ratchet down the hostility or this thread will be locked.

Thank you.

 

[Ashin Varanin]

[member="Julius Octavian"]

Tag me when your thread goes up.

 

[Taeli Raaf]

[member="Julius Octavian"] [member="Adar Bralor"] [member="Alva Calvarona"]

If I may chime in here, it would seem like we all want to see a strong Imperial faction that is not the Sith-Imperial style rise on the board. While the Remnant is trying to pick itself up, I'm currently one of the people helping with that on another character, I see no reason why a brand new faction needs to arise to replace the old.

Working within the system is better than two factions competing for the same pool of people, a pool of people that is already getting drawn upon by the One Sith and is limited as is. I understand the temptation to start anew, but this sort of thing can easily be roleplayed out within the current faction.

As Alva has pointed out, and has been pointed out, yes the IR has been suffering and things are slowly starting to pick up for it again, but we do not need to squabble when we should be working together to address the issue. Those ten people that were mentioned earlier could easily join in the IR and then there can be a skirmish thread over which side is right, whether it should be a Union or the Remnant.

 

[Solariel Eldara]

I'm writing it now.

 

[Solariel Eldara]

[member="Taeli Rae"] Not once did I say I was starting a faction. In the future, possibly yes. It depends on how the role playing goes. Right now, this thread is about my character returning. That's it.

If the Remnant wants to recruit for dominions or threads, I'd invite them to create their own post attempting to do so.

 

[Aram Kalast]

That's it...I'm making a Empire of the Hand...if you can all do it so can I.

 

[Ashin Varanin]

Working within the system is better than two factions competing for the same pool of people, a pool of people that is already getting drawn upon by the One Sith and is limited as is.

It's an easy thing to think, and it's been known to cause a lot of fights, but in some circumstances that's just not how it works. In fact, the effect is sometimes the opposite. Together (or in opposition), the Underground and the Rebel Alliance have popularized rebel-NFU-style RP, for example, despite active recruitment from lots of other light/underworld factions. Or think about the criminal factions amplifying each other and popularizing that kind of RP. Two factions are often better than one for making a certain sort of RP more visible and appealing.

 

[Adar Bralor]

[member="Taeli Rae"]

Well, it has a great deal to do with IC. The Remnant has changed hands many times, (Both IC and OOC) currently is warring with some Imperial warlord and it's been stagnant. For many Imperial lovers, an appearance of an old Imperial hat with a dedication to fixing the problem is a breath of fresh air.

At least that's how I see it.

 

[Solariel Eldara]

[member="Aram Kalast"], DEW EET. Another warlord Empire.

 

[Adar Bralor]

[member="Aram Kalast"]

Go ahead, though there's already a faction that's exactly the same name and that might cause some problems.

 

[Tmoxin Temi]

Although these are all good points, isn't it better to just let this all play out organically?

There is also difference between advice and dictation. A writer should be free to do what they want as they are willing to write it all out IC.

 

[H3xle]

There has been a great deal of miscommunication in this thread. I feel like I've been the only one following what the author of this thread was saying.

I'll monitor Imperial stuff externally (both ic and ooc) before I join anything.

A part of me wants to make some suggestions, but instead I shall fade to the background of this and focus on fun.

I wish you all a good day.