Kira Vaal
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My only opinion is...
MORE Rebellion's are needed!
MORE!
MORE Rebellion's are needed!
MORE!
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The Rebellion System is Broken
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I agree that Rebellion rules need tweaking.
Just one reason why an in-depth examination of them is required:
If Staff finds this possibility acceptable, that's one thing. If not, it'd be best to close the loophole. As time goes on, any possibility that isn't impossible will happen - and someone will eventually attempt the above scenario thinking that it's perfectly acceptable since it's a logical conclusion of the Rules as written.
Just one reason why an in-depth examination of them is required:
- Upon seeing an attempt at a Tier 3 Dominion, a Major Faction staff can create a Minor Faction with characters not affiliated with the Major Faction. Since Minor Factions have no membership requirements and there's no activity requirement to start a Rebellion, the new Minor Faction can initiate a Rebellion on any competing Major Faction after 14 days (so long as this Minor Faction is created before the 150th post in the Dominion). The rest of the members of their Major Faction and their main characters can then join the Rebellion.
- Writers can join any open Major Faction and force any Dominion into Tier 3 status, and then start a Rebellion via the above method.
If Staff finds this possibility acceptable, that's one thing. If not, it'd be best to close the loophole. As time goes on, any possibility that isn't impossible will happen - and someone will eventually attempt the above scenario thinking that it's perfectly acceptable since it's a logical conclusion of the Rules as written.
Kurayami Bloodborn
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On the second point, not quite. A Tier 1 dominion is open to others upon the Major Faction admin okaying their involvement. So someone can't just pop into a T1 dom and force it to T3. The only time a Tier 1 looks to be open to rebellion at all seems to be in Rule 4.
4. If you finish a dominion within 30 minutes of a faction finishing a dominion on the same planet, a Rebellion thread for the planet must be initiated to decide ownership of the planet.
As stated in the Rules section for Dominions, specifically Tiered Dominions the requirements for a Tier 1 Dominion are as follows:
TIER 1
Post Requirement For Completion: 100
Any Member Can Join: Upon Approval by Major Faction Leadership.
Any Faction Can Join: Upon Approval by Major Faction Leadership.
Gains: One Target Planet
Maximum Dominions A Major Faction Can Complete Per Month: N/A
On the second point, not quite. A Tier 1 dominion is open to others upon the Major Faction admin okaying their involvement. So someone can't just pop into a T1 dom and force it to T3. The only time a Tier 1 looks to be open to rebellion at all seems to be in Rule 4.
4. If you finish a dominion within 30 minutes of a faction finishing a dominion on the same planet, a Rebellion thread for the planet must be initiated to decide ownership of the planet.
As stated in the Rules section for Dominions, specifically Tiered Dominions the requirements for a Tier 1 Dominion are as follows:
TIER 1
Post Requirement For Completion: 100
Any Member Can Join: Upon Approval by Major Faction Leadership.
Any Faction Can Join: Upon Approval by Major Faction Leadership.
Gains: One Target Planet
Maximum Dominions A Major Faction Can Complete Per Month: N/A
Viktor Bra'lor
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Screw it!I Ideclare myself God Emperor of the galaxy! -hacks down all oposers- -crown himself EMPORER- IAM THE SENATE!!
-goes back to watching with his popcorn-
-goes back to watching with his popcorn-
Darth Ferus
Wanderer
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There's an easy solution right there.
No minor faction made after the beginning date of a dominion can rebel it.
There's an easy solution right there.
No minor faction made after the beginning date of a dominion can rebel it.
If we wanted to use the Rules as literally written, then every Writer would require prior approval from the Major Faction leadership to join a Tier 1 Dominion. This would include the Faction's own members.Kurayami Bloodborn said:
In practice, Dominions meant to remain Tier 1 don't have the Major Faction Leadership approving their Faction's own members individually. People just act as if there's blanket approval.
Hence why a Tier 1 Dominion can escalate to Tier 3 via someone joining the Major Faction that's doing the Dominion, then push the thread to Tier 2 status, then invite others to join and push it to Tier 3. Basically, a false flag op.
If this ever actually happens, Factions will likely start interpreting the Rule literally and become more exclusive while also limiting who can join what Dominions - even if these people excluded from the Dominion are members of the Major Faction.
Another possible false flag would be for someone to join the Major Faction as a member, or join a Tier 2/3 Dominion, and repeatedly make (valid) posts until they are over 1/4th of the posts in a Dominion. Every successive post increases the required post count by 4. So say in a Tier 1 Dominion, someone that posts 26 times rather than 20 pushes the post requirement from 100 to 104.
Even with this specific rulechange, a sockpuppet Minor Faction for a Major Faction could exist perpetually so long as it isn't declared Inactive by an Administrator.Krest said:
Talmass Erillett
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K!Lok Munin said: