What we need for successful invasions

[Jerek Zenduu]

[member="Cecily de Demici"]

It makes for good story, especially mucking around in the Senate, but I think lumping the Jedi in with the Military would see a decrease in activity in our military, more than we have now. I'd like to find ways to incentivise all our branches and give them OOC reasons to work together.

 

[Mantic Dorn]

[member="Cecily de Demici"] [member="Corvus Raaf"]
I think that it is good if the jedi had a clear role in military operations.
But don't we already have that?

Or are you talking about making jedis into military ranking generals like in the clone wars? that might be interesting but also dangerous since those RPing the "real" troopers must have their turf intact as well. Rather then asking jedi RPers this is in that case a question for those RPing troopers me think.

Whatever happens I think its a great way to have the senators, the jedi and the military a bit separated to give each branch a unique flavor. Perhaps we need to build some more bridges to close the gaps in between them.

• Give senators the right to call on jedi and/or troopers for escort duties. My personal favourite is to pestering senators by guarding them. Perhaps a bill declaring that the jedi are charged with the safety of the senate.
• Have the military the right to request jedi reinforcement whenever they suspect something forcey in their way.
• Create joint missions for jedi/troopers where one wont succeed without the other.
• Throw social threads for us to bond and get to know each other. These are tricky - I know, but they are important, especially for new characters.
• Construct joint massive training programs. The GR is loosing the war. It is obvious something drasticly is needed. Perhaps create two training teams within the Gr and have a massive training session where we skirmish against each other. Troopers can learn how to combat force users and jedi will get field training.
• Drink lots and lots of coffee to stay awake?

 

[Natasi Fortan]

[member="Aurelia Volcata"]

I think that what I am trying to say is that the GR members are taking the loosing side of the stories with dignity. Peeps got wind up by the fact that tefka (not tagging him since it serves no purpose other then irritation) and RPjudges payd attention to this thread and suddenly we are all over ourselves about that we need to behave when loosing.

But the thing is, no one is complaining about GR effort on that topic beside its own members. I think that side of this thread got blown out of proportions while we should continue to discuss what sort of stories we want to tell. And yes, it is tiresome to write stories where one constantly loose. The GR is good at taking losses with dignity. Therefore the idea to discuss on how to write in tbe invasion format to shape a story where the GR is the victor is justified, in my own oppinion.

Buuut, I am only reflecting how I have percieved the GR the last couple of months. Prob much more history in hete that I am blissfully unaware of

EDIT - also, I dont think I am coming with anything really new here. Most folk like good stories with multiple possible outcomes and few enjoy ooc drama
I just wanted to see if I could influence the thread to go back to its original intent. I think...

I understand what you mean now. I don't think anyone was complaining about GR's writers ability, but I got a distinct "sit down and shut up" vibe from the primary staff representation in this thread, which is why I've given up and moved to the other side. It's obvious that on an OOC level the staff are trying to build a better relationship with the OS writers, and anyone having an attitude, rightly or wrongly, that the OS doesn't have our best interests at heart is making that more difficult. Even if it's true that they manipulate and screw around to get the upper hand in an OOC manner, it doesn't help our goals to work more closely together to acknowledge it. That's all I'm saying.

But I agree that we should be focusing on the types of stories that people want to tell and how we can build an overarching theme for our faction. That would be nice. Difficult because of integrating a pragmatic and secular group with the Jedi, but I think we're up to the challenge, don't you?

 

[Jerek Zenduu]

[member="Mantic Dorn"]

I like the way you think.

 

[Oddball]

Okay so people keep saying my that we shouldn't treat the other team aka the One Sith as our IRL enemies. Okay so as a member of the Rebel Alliance I have been privileged to see some of the crap they say about us in their Skype chats where they think no one is listening. So basically some of you are saying just because it's the Internet and they are talking crap about you behind your back they should be pardoned and we should continue to write with them despite the things they say? So by that logic if you were playing football or soccer whatever your sport of preference is, and the other team or player was hanging out with their bros talking crap about you behind your back it'd just be sunshine and daisies?

Am I saying all Sith writers are like this? No. I absolutely adore some of them, Trystis or whatever his name is, Matsu, I mean there's a lot of good. But there's a lot more bad there and yes no one is forcing you to write with them, but when every other person in that faction talks massive amounts of shit about you, excuse me for saying this but fuck that. I'm not about to start being a nice guy to someone that actively bashes me, my friends, and my fellow writers in their little chat. And hell I'll admit it that on multiple times I've used the catch phrase "Lick-Lick-Lick-My use your imagination" when it comes to specific members multiple times, but that's mostly because I see what they say about people, and spoiler alert, it's not nice.

So what [member="Ali Hadrix"] is saying might not be a perfect solution, and yes this is a fictional role playing site that has no bearing in real life. But it's the principle of being forced to writing with these people who are kind of assholes, but if you choose not to write then your faction has a better chance of losing. Broken system is broken.

 

[Natasi Fortan]

Okay so people keep saying my that we shouldn't treat the other team aka the One Sith as our IRL enemies. Okay so as a member of the Rebel Alliance I have been privileged to see some of the crap they say about us in their Skype chats where they think no one is listening. So basically some of you are saying just because it's the Internet and they are talking crap about you behind your back they should be pardoned and we should continue to write with them despite the things they say? So by that logic if you were playing football or soccer whatever your sport of preference is, and the other team or player was hanging out with their bros talking crap about you behind your back it'd just be sunshine and daisies?

Am I saying all Sith writers are like this? No. I absolutely adore some of them, Trystis or whatever his name is, Matsu, I mean there's a lot of good. But there's a lot more bad there and yes no one is forcing you to write with them, but when every other person in that faction talks massive amounts of poodoo about you, excuse me for saying this but kark that. I'm not about to start being a nice guy to someone that actively bashes me, my friends, and my fellow writers in their little chat. And hell I'll admit it that on multiple times I've used the catch phrase "Lick-Lick-Lick-My use your imagination" when it comes to specific members multiple times, but that's mostly because I see what they say about people, and spoiler alert, it's not nice.

So what [member="Ali Hadrix"] is saying might not be a perfect solution, and yes this is a fictional role playing site that has no bearing in real life. But it's the principle of being forced to writing with these people who are kind of assholes, but if you choose not to write then your faction has a better chance of losing. Broken system is broken.

I like you. You've got spunk. I like that.

It's clear that our staff want to cultivate a closer relationship with OS leadership. That's their choice; just because they're our leaders doesn't mean they need to respect the rank and file any more than the OS do. We're all grown-ups here, we can face that reality objectively. They don't owe us anything. Conversely, we don't owe them.

On that score, I think I will be making a character to join your merry band of rebels. I respect the Republic staff's right to pursue their policy of friendship but I also respect your right to try to win, and I admire it, and I want to help. Let's chat about it.

 

[Gir Quee]

The Republic is important to many of us. And I'm glad that many of us feel strongly about the direction that the faction is taking. It's not always the easiest thing to voice, especially when we run the risk of offending someone that we might call a friend. But some good ideas that I would have never thought of have come up because people have been willing to take that risk.

I think it's important that we are transparent and open with another, but it's also important to remember that behind behind each avatar and user name is a person, like you and me. This person has feelings and thoughts of their own. Sometimes this person might think too much, or too little, about what they're going to say. Sometimes that very person is us.

I certainly have been guilty of that. I remember that when I first joined the Republic a year agao, I saw a post and wonder how that person managed to cobble that thought together, especially as a "ranking" member of the Republic. Several months later, I found myself in a similar spot, and I wondered how I could have not thought of that position earlier.

I think it's easy to get trapped in a paradigm, especially when it seems that history is repeating itself; when the same arguments come up again, and again. But that is not always the case.

I'd like for us to take a brief respite from this thread to think things through a lens that might not be our own naturally. It might not be natural, nor should we repress our own feelings, but I have found it immensely helpful in understanding others and their own points of view.

Thank you for your time and contributions to this thread. We'll be reopening this thread again in the future so that we can continue some of the points brought up in the future.