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Why Do Some People Do Stupid, Stupid Things With Their Characters?
- Thread starter Ayden Cater
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Shinju
Eater of the Dead
Didn't Robot Chicken or Family guy do that bit though?
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I think alot of people were naming themselves though? *flees abuse*Valeria Aetani said:
TiCira D'Arr Hawk
Singing Mountain Clan
All I wanted was an epic public death by firing squad...
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Nyxie
【夢狐】
Making a thread non-canon because you didn't like how another writer played? That's just selfish to me. That's something that requires all participants' consent, or at least in my opinion. Who is one person to say what did and didn't happen that other people took time to write? Nopenopenope.
Being ruled death by a judge.... Nah. We're fine, and that is unnecessary and repulsive to just think about. Like Ayden stated in the OP, the PK rule has been taken as an inability to be hurt when in reality, it's an inability to die. If you do something stupid, or even if you make an honest mistake as a writer or character and mess up big-time, you should be able to be put in a wheelchair ICly for the rest of your life and deal with the fact that you were either in a duel or in a warzone, and should have known the consequences.
And the rank tag thing? They're all just that - ranks. I never believed in them, only IC experience and time put into threading/training. Why shouldn't a padawan with ninety threads beat a master with thirty? If they're a good enough writer and their character is realistically clever enough to do it without any personality flaws getting in the way, sure. It's all about what progresses IC. Outranking someone isn't an invitation to be immortal.
Perfect example: NFU's aren't looked at twice as OP when fighting a FU with some degree of equal progression in the thread. But if a padawan, someone more suited in every statistic way than an NFU goes to fight a said master instead of that NFU, it's "Godawan." I bet most people don't even see the subconscious mentality, but rank isn't a substitute for good writing and awareness. I think this works both ways and a lot of high-on's have forgotten that they're mortal too, and a bullet will still go through their body like anyone else's for example. No one is perfect and everyone slips eventually.
Finally, the simple solution to people doing things like storming the gates of a fortress all alone is to ask them to be realistic or change their post - politely - and failing that, report them if need be. It's that simple. I never really believed in avoiding a particular person because of the way they post and the things they post, because then they'll never learn and never get better if everyone is avoiding them, but these things aren't all that complex to deal with. It's just about establishing a good give and take.
Being ruled death by a judge.... Nah. We're fine, and that is unnecessary and repulsive to just think about. Like Ayden stated in the OP, the PK rule has been taken as an inability to be hurt when in reality, it's an inability to die. If you do something stupid, or even if you make an honest mistake as a writer or character and mess up big-time, you should be able to be put in a wheelchair ICly for the rest of your life and deal with the fact that you were either in a duel or in a warzone, and should have known the consequences.
And the rank tag thing? They're all just that - ranks. I never believed in them, only IC experience and time put into threading/training. Why shouldn't a padawan with ninety threads beat a master with thirty? If they're a good enough writer and their character is realistically clever enough to do it without any personality flaws getting in the way, sure. It's all about what progresses IC. Outranking someone isn't an invitation to be immortal.
Perfect example: NFU's aren't looked at twice as OP when fighting a FU with some degree of equal progression in the thread. But if a padawan, someone more suited in every statistic way than an NFU goes to fight a said master instead of that NFU, it's "Godawan." I bet most people don't even see the subconscious mentality, but rank isn't a substitute for good writing and awareness. I think this works both ways and a lot of high-on's have forgotten that they're mortal too, and a bullet will still go through their body like anyone else's for example. No one is perfect and everyone slips eventually.
Finally, the simple solution to people doing things like storming the gates of a fortress all alone is to ask them to be realistic or change their post - politely - and failing that, report them if need be. It's that simple. I never really believed in avoiding a particular person because of the way they post and the things they post, because then they'll never learn and never get better if everyone is avoiding them, but these things aren't all that complex to deal with. It's just about establishing a good give and take.
Eternal Father
Soon™Nemene Talith said:
[member="Nemene Talith"]
KILLING THEM OFF PERMANENTLY KAINE.
Eternal Father
Eventually I will, but this character has only existed for a short amount of time, just over a year and what not.Nemene Talith said:
I will eventually perma kill him off, but not yet
[member="Nemene Talith"]
Get on my level.
Jsc
Disney's Princess
PC deaths are always overrated as the grand Romon Triumph parade of PvP, whilst NPC deaths seem to carry no weight at all. It's always been a no-win situation that no veteran writer should even consider an achievement. I've been on boards where killing a fifteen year old PC Padawan is 'OMG! I did it! Sith career justified forever' whilst killing off the whole NPC Jedi Council is just 'Meh, boring'.
Not all that glitters is gold. I cannot more strongly recommend anything, to anyone, than to never ever consider PC deaths as anything more, or less, than an emotional plot-point contained within an aspiring story. It is just part of the game. It is not, the game.
Not all that glitters is gold. I cannot more strongly recommend anything, to anyone, than to never ever consider PC deaths as anything more, or less, than an emotional plot-point contained within an aspiring story. It is just part of the game. It is not, the game.
Eternal Father
This is why we can't have nice things.Nemene Talith said:
Get on my level.
Cody Weadge
Weadge, Cody Weadge
I can still make this happen.TiCira D'Arr Hawk said:
L Admin
This thread is why RPJs exist. Every complaint here - save for character death - can be handled by an RPJ's decision. RPJs operate within the bounds of the rules, but in situations where no rule presides, all we are left with is the RPJ. And his/her word is law.
L Admin
But if you're looking for an answer to "why do people do dumb things" you've come to the wrong place.
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And all fall silent.
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Chupa La'Roi
#RealSpaceViking
I have no idea what this topic is talking about...
*says this while in a Zero G suit on the underneath of a SSD while it decides to ram an army on the ground*
I broke my legs before. NOW TO SEE IF MY ARMS WILL BREAK!
*says this while in a Zero G suit on the underneath of a SSD while it decides to ram an army on the ground*
I broke my legs before. NOW TO SEE IF MY ARMS WILL BREAK!
Alexandra Feanor
The Lady in Silver/Grey Historian
[member="House Ak'lya"]
As long as he still is alive in August i will still go for my revenge mister Strask.
As long as he still is alive in August i will still go for my revenge mister Strask.
Ayden Cater
Grumpy Goat
[member="Tefka"]
Not looking for an answer. More of a discussion, really. This isn't something that really could have a single answer, given the complexity of it. But I figure healthy discussion about it can't hurt, especially with an emphasis on the not naming names or mudslinging at other people. I mean, I think everyone could freely admit to having done some really stupid things with their characters, so it's not a sentiment targeting a single person or group.
Not looking for an answer. More of a discussion, really. This isn't something that really could have a single answer, given the complexity of it. But I figure healthy discussion about it can't hurt, especially with an emphasis on the not naming names or mudslinging at other people. I mean, I think everyone could freely admit to having done some really stupid things with their characters, so it's not a sentiment targeting a single person or group.
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