Why Do Some People Do Stupid, Stupid Things With Their Characters?

[Onrai]

Naming names would've been better.

 

[Sarge Potteiger]

Not really.

The report button already aches

 

[Onrai]

If people have issues with people, it's best to let the tension explode now rather than cause even more problems in factions, threads, and storylines later down the line.

 

[Allyson Locke]

That bloody report button.

 

[Ayden Cater]

[member="Enigma"]

The problem there is that very few people handle criticism well. We all think we're amazing and awesome and incapable of being wrong (when we know we're right), so to do something like that would just invite further arguments and drama. The point of the thread is not to be a "Hey, look at so-and-so because they did this". It's meant to be something for everyone to look at and go "Huh, maybe it was stupid of me to try and do this. I'll do better in the future."

 

[Onrai]

If the arguments and drama occur now, they won't occur later down the line. Should the staff deal with the situation to make sure it can't happen once more, then it won't end up occurring later, when it could cause even more problems. If people can't handle the criticism, that's an issue on them - why silence the community just due to that risk?

 

[Beowoof]

Starting drama by complaining about an absence of drama?

That's a new one.

Please don't derail the courteous atmosphere. This was a productive thinking topic that I was enjoying reading.

 

[Sarge Potteiger]

"Let's burn down the forest because it's dry and it'll catch fire eventually."

Let's not.

 

[Ayden Cater]

[member="Enigma"]

I understand the sentiment, and it's one I can agree with. To a point.

However, public forums are not a place to air dirty laundry or to encourage people to point fingers and cry 'witch'. The point is communicating with each other. Drama occurs because we sit back and would rather pout like children as opposed to talk to the other side like the sensible adults most of us are. When you sit back and refuse to try and alleviate the tension and instead spread gossip and venom amongst your friends, that leads to drama outbursts.

Communication is key. Talk to the other side. Don't vilify them in a thread about awareness of a crime we've all committed at one time or another. None are blameless. But when you learn to treat everyone with respect, even the ones who you think hate you and don't respect you, other people will see that. And eventually it will be a community we can all have complete pride in.

The measure of man is not what he does when everyone is looking, but what he does when no one is.

 

[Onrai]

[member="Ayden Cater"]

This implies that the other side in such an issue is willing to talk over such issues, when that isn't always the case.

 

[Lupe Baracka]

I god sometimes, if I notice it I usually just give the other guy a free hit . It's not hard people. If you're not wiling to die when 2 Sith surround you, don't put yourselves there.

 

[Soeht]

I'm going to preface this with the statement of this is not going to devolve into a mudslinging arguments. Names will not be named, nor will they be heavily implied. Do so at your own peril.
Now on the board, the general rule regarding character death is that a character may not be killed except when given expressed permission. This has even been carried to mean by some that nothing bad can happen to a character without their permission. Which leads to things like one person assaulting an entire military base or boarding an enemy ship by themselves. I understand that we, as the player characters, are naturally inclined to be the best-of-the-best, but does anyone else find it jarring by some actions that seemed to be performed without any heed to the consequences?

While I do understand that some people can push the envelope, but the examples you have have happened in Star Wars lore to the line party's success.

 

[Elani Zambrano]

We should go back to the good 'ol days, when we didn't require no stinkin' permission to murder the crap out of people.

Can't. Too busy evading thousands of droids.

 

[Louise]

Daella's advocate.

BWAAAAM! BWAAAM BWAAAAM!

*popcorn maker shudders vigorously*

 

[Ayden Cater]

[member="Daella Apparine"]

Certainly so, but a large part of that does come from how the situations were set up. For example, when Obi-Wan and Anakin boarded Grevious' ship in Episode III, the primary reason they made it up to the tower to save Palpatine was because Dooku allowed it. A lot of the problems on the board come from how things are done, moreso than what is being done. People can suspend their belief only so much before it becomes painful. Obi-Wan didn't gloat about how easy the trip onto the ship was, or how stupid Grevious was.

 

[sabrina]

I think best way dealing with things is by pms before the fight starts if possible, so you both know where your coming from thus deal with issues before it becomes an ic issue if thread matters i.e. invasion threads, faction dep threads and other big encounters
if does not matter try pm no success, then walk away.
(yes I wish could follow my own advise all the time)

 

[Bloodknight]

I'm not conscious of ever having god-modded. In my earlier RP days, I avoided taking any "simple" hits (like a haymaker, roundhouse, tackle, etc.) because I thought, since my character was a skilled martial artist, he would always be able to dodge or block hits that are so easy to dodge or block in movies and that you would have to do something exceptionally skillful to score a hit.

Only after a few complaints did I realize that doing so wasn't really fair to the other PC or writer. As I became a more experienced RPer, I put more depth into my characters. I noticed that realistically, while you may be as trained and experienced as you are, you'll naturally make mistakes. Horror is a matukai that knows several different Star Wars martial arts (Teras Kasi, Stava, K'thri, K'tara and Gand Martial Arts to name most of them) and as a result would be devastating in close combat, but I attribute him taking hits to him moving to attack at the wrong time, predicting the wrong movement from his opponent or simply not being in the right position to block or dodge.

Something else I learned as I grew as an RPer is that the typical "ideal main character" (and everyone views their PC as the main character, correct me if I'm wrong) that is fearless and tackles any challenge and is basically a one-man-army, isn't very realistic. It's a nice and attractive character trait from the movies to have if you're into action, but it just makes for a kind of bland, cliche character in my opinion. Horror is a type 2-4 assassin, sociopathic, homicidal serial killer suffering from PTSD and OCD among other psychological disorders and would non-chalantly snap a little boy's neck and teabag his corpse, but he has fears. Most of them irrational. His most hindering flaw is his xanthophobia, which is the fear of the very common and very exploitable color yellow. Come around him wearing a KillBill outfit and he'll completely lose it. But that doesn't make him any less of a good character for me to RP with.

Basically, the problem causing most of the conflicts mentioned in this thread is that some people (notably early RPers) don't know that flaws make a character just as much as strengths do. It brings them better to "life" and makes them less of a cardboard stock character.

 

[The Hound]

Obi-Wan didn't gloat about how easy the trip onto the ship was, or how stupid Grevious was.

Which we see all the kriffing time on the board. And its not even words coming out of their mouth, its just hurtful passive aggressive spam to their posts. I've seen entire posts that were dedicated to passive aggressive attacks on this board.

 

[Soeht]

[member="Daella Apparine"]

Certainly so, but a large part of that does come from how the situations were set up. For example, when Obi-Wan and Anakin boarded Grevious' ship in Episode III, the primary reason they made it up to the tower to save Palpatine was because Dooku allowed it. A lot of the problems on the board come from how things are done, moreso than what is being done. People can suspend their belief only so much before it becomes painful. Obi-Wan didn't gloat about how easy the trip onto the ship was, or how stupid Grevious was.

Again, I agree that sometimes people are stupid.

Yet, a situation where a character goes up against tons of enemies is not inherently stupid writing. It's unrealistic, but Star Wars is space fantasy and, as I've said, it's happened in a lot more situations than just Obi-Wan and Anakin boarding Grevious's ship in Episode III. Easiest case that shows it: in the end, two Rebel starships much smaller than a capital ship took out the largest space station ever created while up against thousands of laser turrets and the galaxy's best pilot.