Are Both Jedi and Sith Evil?

[sabrina]

Jedi are good.

Sith are evil.

End of discussion.

Not really as jedi have committed genocide, and they take small children from their parents.

Also if you follow sith code, it can be quite light side reference. Especially if you apply to your enemies, as it tell you not to enrage their passions. As they will get you back in the end.

 

[Ellie Mors]

Not really as jedi have committed genocide, and they take small children from their parents.

Also if you follow sith code, it can be quite light side reference. Especially if you apply to your enemies, as it tell you not to enrage their passions. As they will get you back in the end.

No where in the sith code does it ever say to "not to enrage their passions". Any myth about the Sith code being a light side anything is just that: myth. The Sith are the dark side, they are evil. They are a plot device purposely and specifically created for that reason. If we really want to go to where it boils down to, the Sith are a group created for the purpose of making a primary evil antagonist group, and the Jedi for the heroes or what have you. That is it, end of discussion.

Now if we want to talk about this in an in-character perspective: Sith are still evil. Anyone who belongs to them and believes them to be good are just their puppets, and those who believe so OOCly are really being pulled by the strings.

 

[sabrina]

[member="Darth Sinna"] sith do not consider themselves evil

 

[Ellie Mors]

[member="Darth Sinna"] sith do not consider themselves evil

No, some sith here do not.

 

[sabrina]

[member="Darth Sinna"]

Sith can love and be affectionate, jedi can not

 

[Kana Truden]

I know shades of gray are awesome somtimes, but don't look for them where there are none.

Sith, bad. Jedi, good.

If we really want to go to where it boils down to, the Sith are a group created for the purpose of making a primary evil antagonist group, and the Jedi for the heroes or what have you. That is it, end of discussion.

Exactly this. The part about good/evil in this discussion shouldn't even exist. The Sith were created to be the bad guys and the jedi were created to be the good guys. If someone as a writer can't accept that as a Sith they're supposed to be evil then perhaps they should have written a Jedi instead.

 

[Darth Veles]

Why is this still going...

Neither side is good or evil. It is about each individual character. I personally like to break the unwritten rule of having to follow the stupid evil Sith stereotype. There is nothing more satisfying for me than to play a Sith who is actually a "good" guy (it is up to the reader to decide for themselves whether my character is good or evil). I think it is better than to constantly bash the reader into face with how eeeeevil my character is. Again, let the reader decide who is good or evil. It also makes for a more believable character

 

[Saran Drast]

Why is this still going...

Tell me about it.

There isn't enough argument here that undermines the fact that has been stated OVER AND OVER in this thread. Sith are meant to be evil. They were made to be. If they aren't, then something's wrong. Same with the Jedi. They are made to be the heroes. There isn't an argument here unless you force one.

 

[Darth Veles]

I will disagree with you a bit, [member="Saran Drast"]. Sith can be both good or evil, they are meant to be antagonists for the heroes. Naturally, given many Jedi are good, the Sith are more often than not evil. That is not the rule though, so it is possible to see non-evil people among the Sith, such as my Veles or [member="Darth Banshee"]. Don't make a mistake, they are antagonists for the heroes, despite not being evil.

Of course, since some Jedi are not good, it is very easy for such Sith to appear as protagonists when they gets into a thread with the bad Jedi. That is not because Veles would be a saint, he is far from that, but because some Jedi simply brutally suck as Jedi.

 

[Helios]

I've seen this argument floating around different sites now and for rp purposes, I'll have to agree with the aforementioned people with the fact that Jedi were meant to be good, while the sith were meant to be evil. Of course these stereotypes(are they really?) may differ per writer, but I believe in the original system.

If another Sith is accompanying me on a mission and we see a building fall on top of some civilians, Helios will most definitely walk away while they're screaming but I know other Sith that will try to help out the needy. IC-wise, things like this will draw negative feedback from Helios but when I see Jedi cutting down people and blowin stuff up, should Helios' heart be warmed by it?

I have seen some interesting theories though. I've seen people claim the Jedi were supposed to become evil because of some fault in their Code(I'll try to find this page again if anyone wants to read it).

And I've seen people copy and paste multiple wookie pages of Jedi massacring entire civilizations and planets because they were seen as a threat, or because they didn't understand them even though said people have never even considered attacking the jedi(or in some cases didn't even know they existed).

People can find the explanations they need to backup arguments about these things, but at the end of the day I think it comes down to the individual writer.

 

[Jsc]

I just want everybody to know,.. *evil grin*

That should this thread ever die for longer than a month,.. *super evil grin*

I will necropost it. *Mughahaha*

Because every good self-assured StarWars website needs at least one abyssal topic were opinions go to die.

 

[Darth Carnifex]

I just want everybody to know,.. *evil grin*

That should this thread ever die for longer than a month,.. *super evil grin*

I will necropost it. *Mughahaha*

Because every good self-assured StarWars website needs at least one abyssal topic were opinions go to die.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfdsu58KXkI[/youtube]

 

[Garza]

I just want everybody to know,.. *evil grin* That should this thread ever die for longer than a month,.. *super evil grin* I will necropost it. *Mughahaha* Because every good self-assured StarWars website needs at least one abyssal topic were opinions go to die.

Now that is a Sith....

 

[Daxton Bane]

And here. I thought he was a Jedi......

 

[Beowoof]

Holy cow. This thread is like the Phoenix. People are still protesting that the Sith aren't evil?

I find the lack of common sense disturbing.

 

[Mrrew]

 

[Saran Drast]

@Beowoof @Mrrew
Maybe if we all just do something important, it will die like it should have long ago.

 

[Garza]

[member="Mrrew"], it's also the reason why we come here to act like aliens.

 

[Mrrew]

See if we'd stop trying to think that Sith are Humanitarians, maybe the Jedi scouts that come to earth to look for force sensitives would stop dismissing us as unintelligent lifeforms...

 

[Sarge Potteiger]

Hold on guys, I got this.