Are Sith Evil?

[Jsc]

Is Jay Scott Clark the true evil here?

Shh. I'm going to change the title of the thread after everyone is done posting to 'Is Jay the true evil here?' Then I'll report everyone who only answered 'yes' for bullying.

*wink wink*

 

[Runi Beskar]

There is and never has been a "good" or "evil" side to the universe. Sure in the movies the Sith are written as being evil but if you think really hard about it then the Sith and Jedi are just biased about there own side, they refuse to accept new things and they see each other as in the wrong. But really in a war like the one between the Jedi and the Sith, the only person who is ever going to get something out of it are the banks funding the sides.

 

[Jsc]

Banks.

...Gotta admit. Didn't see that coming.

 

[Runi Beskar]

It's something my father used to tell me about war [member="Jay Scott Clark"]
"Nobody wins except the banks in the middle"

 

[Jsc]

No no. That's good stuff. I mean, I didn't recreate this thread to actually find an answer. That would be ridiculous. It was mostly because people like to express their opinion out loud before a viewing audience and argue pointless fictional things on the internet. Classic soapbox opera. So the fact that you said 'banks' and actually got me thinking about that and researching it? Well. I'd call that down right impressive. I think I might actually look into that. Which is more than I can say for the majority of 'discussions' I've had on the internet.

Good on ya.

 

[Fabula Caromed]

People like to soapbox...except those of us who like to make fun of the ones who are soapboxing.

 

[Arage Bao]

Is water wet?

 

[Darth Carnifex]

It's not like the mindless masses know what's good for them.

This 'freedom' and 'democracy' has addled their minds to the point that they think they know what's best for their society.

Only we know that's good for them, and if some of those more willful sheep get uppity and then one night disappear forever, then that's their fault.

 

[sabrina]

Oh, why didn't I think about the Sith Code? The answer is already in it.

- SQUIRREL SHARES HIS OPINION IN THE CORNER -

Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.


That's truly the evilest thing I have ever seen.

Conclusion; Sith are evil because their code already states that. And if a Sith says they're not evil, they're probably lying or not Sith at all.

- FIN -

Peace is a lie in nature, nature is not evil. As all predatory animals kill young of other animals, this is means of survival of fittest.
That said sith are not animals, though I would say not inherently evil. Yes most sith want power, and feel the force/nature has granted them that right to power. So yes sith will do evil acts, if they deem it necessary for power or survival. Though they do not go out their way to commit genocide or other crimes, unless their hand is forced in some way. As they know this ultimately self defeating, those sith that do are stupid not evil.
In my opinion sith tend to try and strive for the greater good, while this leaves those that can not keep up behind. Jedi how ever I think are insidious, as they say they are not in charge, yet always offer an opinion and expect it to be followed. i.e. if they don`t get their way then they draw lightsabers, as mentioned by anakin skywalker while he was still a padawan.
Also please remember what Darth Sidious said about jedi, they too purse power. Otherwise why would they need ranks, to distinguish who is in charge. Also jedi have committed 2 genocides, one against the sith and one against the mandalorians. So push come shove like the sith the jedi will do the same. It is not evil to want your way life to be protected, it is nature and nature is not evil.

 

[Nikolas Faselli]

That is exactly what is wrong with the Sith. Even though the following is not only about how evil the Sith are, but also about what is wrong with them. Or people as a whole.

Admitting a thing is impossible is just giving up on trying. Doing something just because 'it's natural' (which it may be) is the worst thing I can portray. Sith may realise peace is not natural, but Jedi try to reach it. They truly want to achieve galactic or even universal peace, they don't give up. Because giving up is a failure. Most Sith I have heard of don't think failure is permitted, so I have come to a whole new question: what do Sith actually want? If their own code tells them to admit something is near impossible, it's a failure. But if it's a failure, we're not talking about Sith.

Peace is an utopia. Many people seek it, because utopia is perfect, it's good. Even though utopia is really-really unlikely to happen due to nature, as some speak, people still try to work towards it. Then there are the ones who say they're realists. They say something is impossible and use it as a reason for everything. I may be the only one who doesn't think this kind of behaviour is acceptable. But it doesn't matter, everybody has their own opinion.

So, I'm continuing. If Sith really were good, then why would they not try to achieve a perfect universe? Trying to reach a state of better life is something which is never illogical if the right ways are used. So why should one even admit something is meant to be and what others seek for is impossible? Why would one try to ignore the fact that if everybody did something, utopia could be reached?

These are Sith. The ones who say peace is a lie.

It is a lie. As long as there are Sith.

Sith are evil.

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I shouldn't bring philosophy in anymore. At least not in English. I don't even want to know how illogical my text may be. I hope it's fine, though.

NOTE: I appreciate everybody's opinion and just like Jay said, most likely this question doesn't have an answer. So I am just presenting my opinion, maybe even debating a bit.

 

[Lord Ghoul]

There is and never has been a "good" or "evil" side to the universe.

Then I guess you won't mind me dumping this boiling vat of oil on you, your children, and your pet dog for no apparent reason.

Because that's not evil.

 

[sabrina]

Then I guess you won't mind me dumping this boiling vat of oil on you, your children, and your pet dog for no apparent reason.

Because that's not evil.

No that is just stupid, as it gains you nothing. Yes people would fear you, but as sith code teaches, that fear would ultimately kill you.
As for what sith want, it same as anyone who has it including the jedi POWER.
Sith do want order, as they no peace is never truly going happen

 

[Jsc]

Is water wet?

Solid, liquid, gas, plasma, or within the theoretical physics of a black hole? What phase of matter are we talking about here? Because I think that the word 'wet' is open to interpretation within a the Science vs Bible context and my fictional religion doesn't appreciate your lake of imagination on the matter.

Get it. On the 'matter'. Haha. Phases of matter? Anybody? Just me? ...Okay then.

#ArgueEverything

 

[Darth Veles]

Why do people think the first line means the Sith want war or that they are against peace? Jedi Code says There is no emotion, there is peace. Does it mean they want to erase all emotions and there are no wars in the galaxy? No, it means members of the JO should be at peace and not controlled by their emotions. Sith, on the other hand, draw power from passion, which strengthens their connection to the Dark Side. I believe the line Peace is a lie, there is only passion means members of the SO shouldn't deny passion, as it gives them power. Peace in that line means inner peace, and if Sith is at peace, they deny themselves the power they could possess.

 

[Ayden Cater]

Yes. There really isn't anyway around that. You can try to mask it through intentions and certain deeds, but at the end of the day the Dark Side of the Force corrupts and twists you inside until you could no longer recognize yourself.

The closest school of Sith ideology there is to being not automatically evil would be Lumiya's branch of the Sith, and even hers can be best described as a "for the greater good" type school of thought. Which might appear "not evil" at first, but if 10,000 children being murdered serves the greater good, then so be it. A lot of things will be sacrificed in the flames of "for the greater good".

Hell, even Ronin Fel had a back up in place for the inevitable turning point when the Dark Side would rob him of his sanity. Some Sith wear the mantle with considerably more poise than others, but at the end of the day; all Sith are evil.

 

[Onrai]

I finally realized it. This is the ultimate troll question, just like bringing up The Grifter's realism on 4chan. We have all been trolled.

Well played, [member="Jay Scott Clark"]. Well played.

 

[Darth Ferus]

Hey look. I'm back from the dead.

I couldn't resist reading this. I really couldn't. I came back to read up on the feedback, saw this. and yup.

Sith are evil. It's what they do. While some could have the view of "Sacrifice the few for the need of the many" the Darkside is indeed a cancer. Sacrifice the few slowly becomes sacrifice some more, then sacrifice them all of my own goals. Sith really are evil. Sure, there is some moral grey zones, but once you become a true Sith, you've crossed the line to evil.

 

[Dredge]

Nope sith are like the good guys here just look at this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&persist_app=1&v=T8TqR1Yr4Dc

I mean that sith guy not even a minute after you start just sitting out there starving peeps to death for the fun of it. I'm sorry but the sith are not anti heroes they aren't good guys they are the bad guys. But there's also the perspective argument and yes perception is reality and while I personally agree it's a point of view things most time the sith have proven time and time again that they are kind of asshats >_>

 

[Darth Veles]

Those jokes in games are just walking stereotypes... they serve no other purpose than being the villains of the title, so they obviously have no redeeming qualities. The good guys, the heroes are the focus since the player plays as one, leaving the Sith as badly written characters. They all eat babies, take drugs, burn villages for fun and what not and one cannot help but wonder why anyone supports them? None of them has any real personality except for acting like an idiot waiting to be killed by the player. I personally hate that kind of villain, it makes the title incredibly black and white and that is boring. If someone likes that kind of villains and plays their character like that, well, I may see that character as pretty boring but it is their choice. I enjoy RPing villains who are like normal people and think more or less like normal people. They laugh, have friends, basically the same thing as the good guys except for fighting for the opposing side and some ideological differences here and there.

 

[sabrina]

Hey look. I'm back from the dead.

I couldn't resist reading this. I really couldn't. I came back to read up on the feedback, saw this. and yup.

Sith are evil. It's what they do. While some could have the view of "Sacrifice the few for the need of the many" the Darkside is indeed a cancer. Sacrifice the few slowly becomes sacrifice some more, then sacrifice them all of my own goals. Sith really are evil. Sure, there is some moral grey zones, but once you become a true Sith, you've crossed the line to evil.

So is chemo therapy evil, as it kills part of the body so the whole can survive?