Galactic One Sith Parliament

[Darth Carnifex]

A long and certainly fleshed out write-up, [member="Daughter Andromeda"]

But I don't like how bogged down with new titles and positions we'd be if such a system was implemented. We should try and keep the construction of new legislative / executive bodies within the realm of what we already have (which is already one rank too many if you ask me).

If we start throwing around new ranks and positions besides the nice compact hierarchy we have now I feel we'd never find enough dedicated people to fill them and this whole system you proposed will all fall apart.

Plus, I'll never call the Dark Lord the Emperor. We haven't done it before, and I'm definitely not going to start anytime soon.

 

[Darth Ferus]

There's still the question on where subfactions willl be included. There are a number, and I'd like to see them all included in some way shape or form.

 

[Shachath]

Trying to address all concerns in this post, so ping me if I miss any:

• Over Complicated: The long version I wrote first is written primarily as a story-telling device. It explains how the hierarchy works. It doesn't really grant many new titles or powers, simply expands on the old ones and fits them into a solid 'government structure' that would be needed to validate a parliament. Also as it is a lore-type blurb of information, it would be made available for those interested, but any member of the OS could just look at the shorter version and get by just fine without ever setting eyes on the longer one.

• The Emperor: The reason this is being changed in what I wrote is for story reasons. The OS is a real-deal galactic power. Everyone know the OS are meant to be the 'antagonists,' but Nazi Germany didn't prance around calling itself the 'Axis of Evil.' I think there are many in the IC world that believe the OS is doing good, and in some ways they may be. So in calling the Dark Lord the Emperor officially it gives the impression to outsides that 'hey, maybe they are just misunderstood?'

• The Emperor p2: Also, it is important to note that the title Dark Lord has relevance to only Sith, yet the goal here is to expand the faction to NFUs (if I'm not mistaken?) Joe Blow the NFU isn't going to feel comfortable serving a Dark Lord... that sounds evil as poodoo no matter how you spin it. Serving the Emperor though? Now that's some noble ass stuff. So essentially the sith would call him the Dark Lord because it has relevance to them and NFUs and other non-Sith would call him the Emperor. It's like how some Sororities have secret officer titles that only members know.

• Sub-Factions: In the long-form version, I did mention that one representative from each sub-faction would serve on the Privy Council. Not much, but it was in there We could also say that each sub-faction has x number of representatives based on their activity or something?

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[Darth Carnifex]

I'd rather have an institution that could realistically be filled rather than one over saturated with so much fluff that only a small portion of it would actually be used by writers.

Plus, we did perfectly fine without calling him the Emperor ever since we went major, why change it now?

[member="Daughter Andromeda"]

 

[Sage Bane]

[member="Daughter Andromeda"]

Instead of Privy Council, what about "Archonox?"

I believe a few of us liked that name.

 

[Reverance]

[member="Darth Vornskr"]

The current titles we have are this: Wrath (1), Eye (1), Voice (5), Hand (2), and Shadow (1) (modified Hand title specific to the Assassins).

With the current proposition, we would add the following specific titles: Speaker of the Will. So in essence, we are only adding one additional rank which would be held by an NFU that is essentially the speaker of the house for the Will. Sure, we are providing ranks for what are essentially members of the legislative body. Unless the issue has more to do with the increased number of councils and what not. Granted, I agree that we shouldn't saturate the prospect with empty space if that can be helped - though that will be the nature of things from the beginning, the forum will be there to direct interest. It would be better to build the seats there, in case we get more people, then to have to worry about accommodating excess interest down the road with as-built modifications.

For the Emperor: I don't think anyone is really expecting Kaine to call him the emperor. Are we getting hung up on that or just the notion of calling him that at all?

 

[Shachath]

[member="Darth Vornskr"]
Well, I've only been a member since June and only been a OS active member since... today. So I am coming at this completely from a fresh perspective. I think that the OS is a truly top-notch faction that has stood the test of time much better than its rivals. Why not dabble in fresh ideas? We have plenty of activity to support something if it turns out to be a bad idea, but we should take risks... Otherwise we become every other boring faction. [I also edited my above post for you]

Now, you do raise a good point that why would we come up with such a huge fluff system if we couldn't fill it. BUT like I said, everything in the system is already filled with current members. The only area that needs new members is the lower house. The story is getting bigger, but the plot is staying the same.

[member="Sage Bane"]
Yes, I think this would be nice!

[member="Reverance"]
Nailed it!

 

[Darth Ferus]

"My life for the Emperor." Will always sound better than "My life for the Dark Lord."

My two cents on that.

[member="Daughter Andromeda"]

Subfactions are a big part of what the OS is, so just representatives make them seem separated rather than part of the One Sith itself. They should be integrated into the new system as a part of the new system, not just 'you got three people to represent you in x affairs.'

 

[Shachath]

"My life for the Emperor." Will always sound better than "My life for the Dark Lord."

Exactly. Granted, this character would prefer option two, but he is also super evil. We aren't all gonna be Death Eaters!

Also, I dont think it would be out of the question to say that all sub-factions operate the exact same was as the main OS does. Each planet, regardless of the faction/sub-faction, would get a planetary ruler/executor in the Will. Problem solved, I think?

 

[Cryax Bane]

Now, you do raise a good point that why would we come up with such a huge fluff system if we couldn't fill it. BUT like I said, everything in the system is already filled with current members. The only area that needs new members is the lower house. The story is getting bigger, but the plot is staying the same.

Member of the lower house, checking in!

 

[Darth Carnifex]

Why write 16 pages of unneeded fluff when you can just have two simple institutions?

A senatorial body made up of Imperial Governors, and a war council of Hands and Voices presided over by the Wrath?

Why do we have to break it down further and dilute it by making a lower and upper house?

Why have a Privy Council and a War Council?

Why make it so complicated when it can be explained extremely well in a more simplified manner?

 

[Shachath]

[member="Darth Vornskr"]
I mean... Im a world-builder. That's why Im a codex judge

Why write a 16 page post that beautifully articulates how a character walks into a room when you could write one line saying "Bobby walks in and sits down?"

Because that isnt a good story. What is Bobby wearing? Why is he there? How does he feel about being there? Is his mind wandering? Is he tired or hungry?

Would it be easier to just say "Bobby walks in" and call it a day? Absolutely. But who does that?

All this being said: let me rethink my idea to fit what you are requesting and see how everyone likes it?

 

[Darth Carnifex]

This isn't the same as describing a scene, this is making a part of the OS government more streamlined and user friendly.

[member="Daughter Andromeda"]

 

[Armand Temi]

I can agree with both sides, but it may be the kind of thing that's more complicated in theory, but put into practice, works out very well.

I say it's a good place to start, and perhaps the streamlining will come when we start RPing it out?

 

[Darth Ferus]

[member="Daughter Andromeda"]

If it takes someone 16 pages to write out that Bobby walks into a room, I wont have the time to participate in the thread.

Too much detail detracts from it.

Find a middle ground you two .p.

[member="Darth Vornskr"]

 

[Shachath]

[member="Darth Vornskr"]
Let me fit what I wrote to your specifications and see how we all like it. I agree with you, Im just me lol

We can build on a simple foundation and let it grow organically into something bigger

 

[Darth Eversor]

Alright so I have little say or regard in the way of political predicaments or planning, really, I'm just the hammer that gets thrown around to break stuff and reinforce OS rule and dominance. So basically just a tank. But within the past couple of weeks, I was encouraged to create someone on behalf of [member="Darth Vornskr"] that I believe would only strengthen Imperial mandate and further expand on some story development. What I'm talking about of course is a secret police serving under the Federal Monarchy of Panatha; The Sythegore Arm.

This institution is actually my first real shot at getting myself involved in the political scene, but in a more shady, murderous fashion. As of right now I'm still developing and writing the group itself and probably won't be done until I feel truly comfortable with putting it out. (mainly because I don't wanna seem stupid when it comes to terms and knowledge.) I'm simply putting this here because I felt it was the appropriate thread, and because The Sythegore Arm may be in Imperial favor and could potentially get involved in various situations, however, that is only if the final product isn't strictly Panatha bound.

Anyway, that was my two cents on Sith politics in general. Hope this wasn't a waste of anyone's time to read through.

P.S.

As for the whole debate over the fluff, it's good to have detail and look pretty. But keep in mind that too much fluff doesn't always necessarily attract; hook readers with more than what could appear as useless rhetoric, but keep it short and sweet.

 

[Darth Carnifex]

Yeah, I just don't want us to blow our load on the first attempt at making a more legislative organized body within the OS government.

Keep it simple and easy to understand, and then if/when it gains traction build onto it more.

[member="Daughter Andromeda"]

 

[Mythos]

I'm a relatively new, (a noob)
But if i could say my 2 cents. I'd say the Dark Lord... As an NPC has it's benefits and i can see what the Plus sides of that is. (less backstabbing and constant plotting for the throne)
But the Dark Lord as a Character, a Writer's character who grew and Became the Dark lord. It has certain Appeal, Lorewise.
A Dark Lord that would work like he does, but when the time comes he is not afraid to suit up, take the fight to the Enemy as Dark Lord, as the Lord of the Sith Leading the Battle front lines. A Warrior King like Adas. I say [member="Darth Vornskr"] Kaine Zambrano after reading a bit about his Lore and History, kind of fits this idea in my head about a Warrior King/ Dark Lord of the Sith.

 

[Shachath]

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THE DARK LORD - EMPEROR

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THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH​

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THE WAR COUNCIL​

Leader(s): The Wrath​

Membership: The Hands, The Voices, The Shadows​

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The War Council is the body of the military/executive charged with coordinating the efforts of the military under the direction of the Wrath.​

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THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH​

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Will of the Emperor or Imperial Archonox​

The Speaker​

The Speaker is elected by the legislative to be the chair of the body (and also the OOC moderator) identical the UK Speaker of the House of Commons. They are basically the Prime Minister (under the Emperor, Eye, Wrath, etc)​

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The Executors or Archons​

These are the senators/planetary leaders. Each OS and OS sub-faction planet gets one vote in the body. They can make laws, go on diplomatic missions, and help run the government.​

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