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One Sith and the Covenant of the Black Rose

[member="Darth Timoris"]

Just had a conversation with some folks. Apparently there has been a miscommunication.

As long as the Covenant publically condemns the actions of Vendefica, don't harbor her and turn her over if she comes to them for protection? The Black Rose will be fine.

(Correct me if I misunderstood you FA team)
 

Vrag

The Second Seal, broken.
[member="Darth Carach"] [member="Darth Timoris"]



Vrag said:
The One Sith, ICly, cannot afford to screen every CotBR member. They might as well all be traitors. That's how betrayal works. If the rest of the Council members disagree with the claims made by one of them (Venefica, in this case), then their choice is to disavow her claims and reaffirm their fealty to the Dark Lord, lest his wrath come down on the whole faction. Since she is the one who made the damning claims, it's her words that need to be discredited.

This, in not so many words. :)
 
[member="Vrag"]

Was would be the keyword, aye. He's not so much now, nor will he be when I return.

Will my people still be branded traitors and filth despite there being an all together new Shadow? I hate this feeling that I wont be able to continue my own RP because people see that they must punish my friends even when there is no logical reason. So I'm worried, yes. Rightfully so, given how this thread has gone.
 
Darth Ferus said:
This sort of thing has always worried me, cause Ferus's story does end with a betrayal of the One Sith (Big shock there right?) and now I'm questioning continuing his story upon my (hopefully) healthy return to the RP scene because of this. Should he betray the OS, will the entire Sith Assassin group be branded as traitors?
[member="Darth Ferus"]

To address this. The SA would openly condemn this action, and Ophidia would personally go to put her former Master to death as proof of this.

As has been now stated, this would put the blame on the individual (Ferus).
 
Darth Ferus said:
I hate this feeling that I wont be able to continue my own RP because people see that they must punish my friends even when there is no logical reason.
Guilty By Association ~

Guilt by association means that you personally didn't really do something wrong but that people who you are associated with did. You are judged by the company you keep, so you can be viewed as guilty because of your association with wrongdoers.
 
[member="Darth Carach"]

Just wanted to make sure. I hate the idea of my people being punished over such a simple storyline. Bit of tension and a need to prove loyalty? Love it. But the start of this thread was pretty misleading. Caused some serious worry.
 
[member="Kage"]

Not a worry, man. In the end we all care about our characters and the storylines we write - so it's understandable that people get concerned.

Most important thing is to keep that communication line going and making sure we are all on the same line, because more often than not miscommunications happen... and then poodoo hits the fan.
 
As stated, if the CotBR wants to openly swear their fidelity to the Dark Lord, do it!

If they want to support Darth Venefica! Do it!

It is all great RP.

None the less, Icly, the members are aware that Venefica is one of the founding members of the CotBR, and unless icly they come forth to state otherwise, guilty by association will show.

But then we also have to consider what the principles of the CotBR are -- and that is sheltering One Sith Traitors.

With this coming out so publicly, this would be great storyline to determine if members of CotBR will continue to harbor traitors, or hand over Venefica.

Nothing is stopping any CotBR member from starting a thread and tagging the leadership or any member of the OS to discuss things icly!


As seen by their history portion of their CotBR major application.

Darth Venefica said:
In the beginning. The Black Rose, at the creation from the mind of Darth Venefica, had started out as a sub-faction to the One Sith. In truth, it was an all exclusive Order for females of the Sith and any Darkside follower to have an Order that understood the plight of woman in the galaxy; and sought to lay dominance to their gender opposites. As the Order grew in number and it's members began not only working together but finding common ground in shared beliefs and paths, they began to slowly separate themselves from the One Sith. A vote was taken and failed to pass. Soon the doors of gender discrimination had been pushed open and the Black Rose began accepting males that too shared in their quest for more knowledge surrounding the Darkside and seeking a greater purpose in the galaxy. The influence of the Black Rose began to swell bursting the seams of confinement to just a sub-faction/minor faction of the One Sith; thus raising the idea once more for a separation. Traitors, labeled by those of the One Sith, began to seek refuge within the Black Rose. Due to the Black Rose Code, judgement of other's views and opinions of the One Sith were allowed to be debated but never challenged on the basis of swaying or ostracizing them for what they hold true to their hearts. Any member, hunted or bountied out by the One Sith, would find protection within the Black Rose. With the formation of the Black Rose Council came the debates of officially breaking free from the One Sith; which they finally did. Those in the One Sith hierarchy viewed this separation as weakening the One Sith Empire while those in the Black Rose saw the separation as insurance for the survival of the Sith as a whole. Over time, others began to feel isolated from the One Sith. And once again, the halls of the Black Rose saw increased membership. Today, the bond between the One Sith and the Black Rose is shaky at best.
 

Darth Timoris

To err is human, to forgive divine. And I'm no god
I have genuinely lost the will on this thread and possibly the boards...

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Setzi Lunelle

Searching for Eleos's Altar
Darth Vornskr said:
Guilty By Association ~

Guilt by association means that you personally didn't really do something wrong but that people who you are associated with did. You are judged by the company you keep, so you can be viewed as guilty because of your association with wrongdoers.
Exactly. If a government figurehead in real life was found to be selling secrets to its enemy, an inquisition would happen to investigate not only the figurehead, but any allies that may have assisted in the treason.

This is just a normal consequence of treachery and betrayal.
 

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