The Forgotten One
Indeed. Don't understand the Rocky attitude. The covenant should just go for it or whoever.Lucas Gravois said:
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One Sith and the Covenant of the Black Rose
- Thread starter Reverance
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Kenrath
Well-Known Member
[member="Reverance"] [member="Vrag"] [member="Sage Bane"] [member="Darth Kentarch"] [member="Darth Vornskr"] [member="Darth Timoris"]
I don't think the idea of an impending Civil war is the issue. Heck [member="Darth Mythos"] and I have been working on an angle privately for like two weeks now on an angle to trigger one.
I think the biggest issue here is the members of CoTBR it seems were not kept in the loop and more importantly feel like they are not being given a chance to peruse the angle of condemning Venefica's actions before a Skirmish thread was created, before a post was tossed up that when I first read it screamed you are all traitors prepare to die.
As much as I respect Reverance as a writer I can't help but think it could have been worded better in the original post.
Welp love it or hate it that is my two cents. Back to posting for me.
I don't think the idea of an impending Civil war is the issue. Heck [member="Darth Mythos"] and I have been working on an angle privately for like two weeks now on an angle to trigger one.
I think the biggest issue here is the members of CoTBR it seems were not kept in the loop and more importantly feel like they are not being given a chance to peruse the angle of condemning Venefica's actions before a Skirmish thread was created, before a post was tossed up that when I first read it screamed you are all traitors prepare to die.
As much as I respect Reverance as a writer I can't help but think it could have been worded better in the original post.
Welp love it or hate it that is my two cents. Back to posting for me.
Sage Bane
Gazing into the abyss
[member="Vengeance"]
I understand your concerns, and they're good ones. However, to clarify, the CotBR are separate from the OS. We don't oversee their members, and it would be disrespectful of us as FAs to go around their FO to try and influence their members in their characters' decisions or their characters' roles in their faction.
This post of Reverance's is our chance to communicate with our members as well as theirs, and one that doesn't disrespect the authority of their FO.
As for the skirmish, we are only seizing assets from Anaxes that belonged to Darth Venefica who has been branded a traitor because of her actions in the Will thread. The key BR locations were moved to Kesh so they will not be harmed.
I understand your concerns, and they're good ones. However, to clarify, the CotBR are separate from the OS. We don't oversee their members, and it would be disrespectful of us as FAs to go around their FO to try and influence their members in their characters' decisions or their characters' roles in their faction.
This post of Reverance's is our chance to communicate with our members as well as theirs, and one that doesn't disrespect the authority of their FO.
As for the skirmish, we are only seizing assets from Anaxes that belonged to Darth Venefica who has been branded a traitor because of her actions in the Will thread. The key BR locations were moved to Kesh so they will not be harmed.
Lord Commander
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XD
I deny all these allegations! I am innocent i tell you!Vengeance said:
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Success or Death.
[member="Darth Mythos"]
Seems we are going to need another discipline thread, my dear apprentice. *cracks knuckles*
Seems we are going to need another discipline thread, my dear apprentice. *cracks knuckles*
Kenrath
Well-Known Member
Darth Ophidia said:
lol NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
They are getting along swimmingly I promise.
THE Wookie Jedi
A list of all know IC One Sith Traitors should be made.
Success or Death.
[member="Darth"] Skaarj
That is actually a really good idea.
That is actually a really good idea.
But I Am Free
[member="Darth"] Skaarj
I'll get on it myself at some point. The SA need marks as it is.
I'll get on it myself at some point. The SA need marks as it is.
Hal Terrano
Prince of Porridge
Darth Ferus
Wanderer
[member="Darth Vornskr"]
I don't care if people show IC aggression because of guilty by association, but the opening post seemed more OOC and IC than just IC.
Gotta agree with [member="Vengeance"] though. This guy? He completely understands the issue at hand. There should have been much more OOC talk before making this thread. Would have avoided all this needless drama.
I don't care if people show IC aggression because of guilty by association, but the opening post seemed more OOC and IC than just IC.
Gotta agree with [member="Vengeance"] though. This guy? He completely understands the issue at hand. There should have been much more OOC talk before making this thread. Would have avoided all this needless drama.
:: HERO of KORRIBAN ::
I've read this entire thread, and every argument.
1. I am not convinced this is the opportunity for civil war you are looking for, because technically it is not, not when CotBR has split off.
2. To suddenly say the faction is guilty by association is an IC power play that has OOC consequences no faction should have over another. There are always IC and OOC consequences on every IC decision. The first post read like a threat to me that people better leave or get hunted. If that is not the intent, it needs to be rewritten in my opinion.
The OS would be better served to go after Venefica and her holdings. Let the CotBR choose to defend her or not. If they turn a blind eye you see there loyalty. Let's make an example of Venefica. If that was intent of the first post... then it needs to be severely clarified.
All of that said. There is an opportunity here for good story of done right! So let's do it right.
1. I am not convinced this is the opportunity for civil war you are looking for, because technically it is not, not when CotBR has split off.
2. To suddenly say the faction is guilty by association is an IC power play that has OOC consequences no faction should have over another. There are always IC and OOC consequences on every IC decision. The first post read like a threat to me that people better leave or get hunted. If that is not the intent, it needs to be rewritten in my opinion.
The OS would be better served to go after Venefica and her holdings. Let the CotBR choose to defend her or not. If they turn a blind eye you see there loyalty. Let's make an example of Venefica. If that was intent of the first post... then it needs to be severely clarified.
All of that said. There is an opportunity here for good story of done right! So let's do it right.
Eternal Father
The fact that she's turned on us puts the loyalty of the entire CotBR in question ICly
Turning a blind eye proves nothing other than they're willing to cut off loose ends, for the OS leadership to feel that the CotBR is still loyal they need to make a show of loyalty, otherwise they're clumped in with the offender.
[member="Darth Vizios"]
Turning a blind eye proves nothing other than they're willing to cut off loose ends, for the OS leadership to feel that the CotBR is still loyal they need to make a show of loyalty, otherwise they're clumped in with the offender.
[member="Darth Vizios"]
:: HERO of KORRIBAN ::
[member="Darth Vornskr"]
Right and I'm saying that has OOC consequences which I do not support. I'll play along no matter what is decided. Online debates never sway anyone. I simply wanted to add my voice to the mix of OOC descent on this idea, as it could use some more thought.
I'm already IC in a thread dealing with some of the action on this, and a CotBR council member is telling them to ignore the thread because they were not made aware of what is going on. An IC action with an OOC consequence.
IC my character is down for what er the Sith want to do. I just have an issue with this as a writer.
Right and I'm saying that has OOC consequences which I do not support. I'll play along no matter what is decided. Online debates never sway anyone. I simply wanted to add my voice to the mix of OOC descent on this idea, as it could use some more thought.
I'm already IC in a thread dealing with some of the action on this, and a CotBR council member is telling them to ignore the thread because they were not made aware of what is going on. An IC action with an OOC consequence.
IC my character is down for what er the Sith want to do. I just have an issue with this as a writer.
Eternal Father
They're trying to ignore it because they claim the skirmish wasn't negotiated with them, but skirmishes don't need to be negotiated with factions.
[member="Darth Vizios"]
[member="Darth Vizios"]
B E A C O N
I feel like I'm at work all over again.
Only with two different factions instead of front of the house and back of the house.
Actually that is still kind of the same...
Only with two different factions instead of front of the house and back of the house.
Actually that is still kind of the same...
Laira Darkhold
Well-Known Member
I don't know whats going on. But I feel Carach will continue to give me things if I hit the right people, so Imma do that.
Lord Commander
[member="Draco Vereen"] Cue Stone Cold Steve Austin GIF
Laira Darkhold
Well-Known Member
[member="Darth Mythos"]
Triple H is [member="Darth Carach"] in this one
THE Wookie Jedi
Was the Skirm a justified IC move? Yes.
Would it of been good to first give out a OOC heads up? Yes, absolutely.
Plus, Aren't we kinda skirmishing our own planet? Anxes or w/e its called is way too far to be within BR grasp. Gives a good IC motive for BR not to fight back im my opinion.
Would it of been good to first give out a OOC heads up? Yes, absolutely.
Plus, Aren't we kinda skirmishing our own planet? Anxes or w/e its called is way too far to be within BR grasp. Gives a good IC motive for BR not to fight back im my opinion.
