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Ashin Varanin
Professional Enabler
Antje Traue > Lady Gaga.
The SPECIAL hell.
The SPECIAL hell.
L Admin
I liked the old ava too 
The Crashing Loony
A few more questions I have.
1. Is it possible to make a duel between a NPC and a PC? I'm thinking of taking the fight I sorta started in an OOC topic involving Gridiron and KORAH to a true IC level.
2. Was it my suggestion that brought the Scoundrel title to this site, or were you guys thinking of it ahead of time?
3. What do you guys think of making a few more titles and upping the title amount to 3, like Mastermind or Trickster, cause I can definately think of a few people here that some of the titles I'm thinking of will fit xD.
1. Is it possible to make a duel between a NPC and a PC? I'm thinking of taking the fight I sorta started in an OOC topic involving Gridiron and KORAH to a true IC level.
2. Was it my suggestion that brought the Scoundrel title to this site, or were you guys thinking of it ahead of time?
3. What do you guys think of making a few more titles and upping the title amount to 3, like Mastermind or Trickster, cause I can definately think of a few people here that some of the titles I'm thinking of will fit xD.
L Admin
1. Yes. I think you should find a role-play buddy who's used to post-by-post role-playing to kind of show you the ropes. Starting a thread asking for some people to role-play with would be your best bet!
2. Yes!
3. Sorry, there's always been a huge demand for Rank Titles and they're quite popular, but I've found 2 to be the best number for us as a community.
Edit: #1 Continued: But in OOC threads, we like posts to stay OOC.
2. Yes!
3. Sorry, there's always been a huge demand for Rank Titles and they're quite popular, but I've found 2 to be the best number for us as a community.
Edit: #1 Continued: But in OOC threads, we like posts to stay OOC.
The Crashing Loony
Alright, I've been in play by post sites before, but the ones I was in were a lot faster than this site, oddly enough for the amount of people in here. And I apologized in the thread before responding to KORAH's dodge of the ion cannons, cause some times it kinda fits, other times it doesn't, and I realize this.
If your answer was about the first part of my second question, then that's really cool that you considered it.
and I mostly referred to the combinations of "1 Force user title and 2 non force user titles" and "1 Faction title and two non force user titles" or even one of each title type.
If your answer was about the first part of my second question, then that's really cool that you considered it.
and I mostly referred to the combinations of "1 Force user title and 2 non force user titles" and "1 Faction title and two non force user titles" or even one of each title type.
Ashin Varanin
Professional Enabler
@[member="Arumi Zy"]
Cortosis ore is weak and crumbly, but will turn off a lightsabre.
Cortosis alloy is roughly as effective as songsteel and phrik at blocking a lightsabre.
Cortosis ore is weak and crumbly, but will turn off a lightsabre.
Cortosis alloy is roughly as effective as songsteel and phrik at blocking a lightsabre.
Asemir
Null Prime
What are the rules governing the proper citation and attribution of artwork?
As both an artist and writer who's had work stolen from me and claimed by others, I find it very irritating when it happens. Do we have rules that try to prevent this from happening, or rules stating how a piece of work should be cited? For example, a link back to the artist or original source of the work.
That being said, I commend the staff for creating such a great environment, and the efforts to coordinate a forum-wide event. Quite impressive.
Also, Ashin smells funny. But she does look rather cute in her avatar.
As both an artist and writer who's had work stolen from me and claimed by others, I find it very irritating when it happens. Do we have rules that try to prevent this from happening, or rules stating how a piece of work should be cited? For example, a link back to the artist or original source of the work.
That being said, I commend the staff for creating such a great environment, and the efforts to coordinate a forum-wide event. Quite impressive.
Also, Ashin smells funny. But she does look rather cute in her avatar.
Some things I love:
the genre banhammer in tech. I love the fact that RPJs are brutal in the tech forum. I honestly think they can turn the heat up another notch. I'm sure all the staff knows this already, but I'll say it nonetheless. Strong critiquing creates better designs and better designers. Laxity leads to poorly thought through designs. If people can get whatever they want approved in there it affects the writing, whether it be from OPed armor and weapons to stuff that is blatantly non-star wars. I get that people love other series and want to incorporate them. If we did incorporate them, it wouldn't have that unique feel to it that the SW universe has. This is a Star Wars board. Please continue to keep it pure.
Also, the staff has a wonderful way of being transparent in boardwide processes. I've been on quite a few boards, and this by far is the staff with the best attitude. I.E. you aren't a bunch of egotistical megalomaniacs.
Some things I think the staff could do better:
Overpowered characters. I spy a lot of them. I understand the sort of case-by-case way this is addressed, but maybe a guideline should be created for what Apprentices/Padawans can/should be able to do in comparison the abilities of Knights and what Knights can do in comparison to the abilities of Masters and what Masters can do in comparison to... gods.
the genre banhammer in tech. I love the fact that RPJs are brutal in the tech forum. I honestly think they can turn the heat up another notch. I'm sure all the staff knows this already, but I'll say it nonetheless. Strong critiquing creates better designs and better designers. Laxity leads to poorly thought through designs. If people can get whatever they want approved in there it affects the writing, whether it be from OPed armor and weapons to stuff that is blatantly non-star wars. I get that people love other series and want to incorporate them. If we did incorporate them, it wouldn't have that unique feel to it that the SW universe has. This is a Star Wars board. Please continue to keep it pure.
Also, the staff has a wonderful way of being transparent in boardwide processes. I've been on quite a few boards, and this by far is the staff with the best attitude. I.E. you aren't a bunch of egotistical megalomaniacs.
Some things I think the staff could do better:
Overpowered characters. I spy a lot of them. I understand the sort of case-by-case way this is addressed, but maybe a guideline should be created for what Apprentices/Padawans can/should be able to do in comparison the abilities of Knights and what Knights can do in comparison to the abilities of Masters and what Masters can do in comparison to... gods.
Valiens Nantaris
Head Admin
@[member="Mikhail Shorn"], I fear this is a problem at every RPing site everywhere because everyone's idea of what's acceptable is different. I'm loathe to RP Force powers outside a narrow radius, but I know others move heaven and earth in battle. Nothing wrong with either approach, but you can get some...oddities happen.
Like people teleporting themselves with the Force across a star system etc. But then, weird things happen in the EU.
So the best we can actually do is monitor cases on a one-by-one basis.
Like people teleporting themselves with the Force across a star system etc. But then, weird things happen in the EU.
So the best we can actually do is monitor cases on a one-by-one basis.
@[member="Asemir Lor'kora"], while your question is very important to artists and writers, which essentially make up the entirety of this community, my answer has a slightly tricky background.
For a short, simple, and sweet answer, this site does not have any official rules regarding copying others' works, specifically characters. Yet for material posted on the site, members may use the report button if they feel that another member of the board has plagiarized their work. There is also no rule over whether or not to cite another work of art's source, as the staff of Star Wars RP.net can never be certain of what is original and what is not. We also do not have the time to verify the art's originality, if it is copyrighted, and what the copyright holder wants pertaining to the work. Yet, citing the artist is never discouraged and Star Wars RP.net will remove copyrighted artwork if the holder of the rights asks us to remove it.
For a more in-depth explanation, I would like to first explain the difference between plagiarism and copyright. The distinctions are important to make as some role-players believe that they can press charges over copyright infringement or plagiarism in the event that someone explicitly copies their characters. In fact, they cannot successfully do so with either.
Plagiarism is essentially presenting another person's work as one's own. An example of this would be if I take definite aspects of Asemir Lor'kora the character and made a character with them claiming that they were my own. This can happen accidentally, which is why American writers may remember that their English teachers and professors always forced them to cite every fact and opinion presented in research papers. Plagiarism is generally unethical, yet it is not illegal by default. Generally, if someone sues for non-copyrighted plagiarism, the most they may get is that the person that plagiarized must edit his or her work to credit the originator of the idea that was plagiarized.
Copyright is entirely an issue of legality. When a piece of work has copyright, this means that some entity has all the rights to an intellectual property and the derivative works. Star Wars is the copyrighted intellectual property of Lucasfilm LTD. Copyright infringement would be using clear elements of Star Wars and adapting it to one's own work, overlapping with plagiarism. It could also mean that one distributes Star Wars material, such as artwork, films, and games, without permission from Lucasfilm. One thing to note is that not everything said or written is then under copyright. There is a legal process that must be taken in order to copyright intellectual property, especially new IP.
For Star Wars RP.net, all artwork used in the themes are either used with the permission of the artist or they are copyrighted Star Wars material. Luckily for Star Wars RP.net, Lucasfilm actually maintains a very friendly stance toward fansites using copyrighted material and even provides a page that links to several major fan sites. This is because attempting to sue every fan site is more costly to Lucasfilm both in money and fans than if the sites were allowed. Lucasfilm will only intervene if we either make money off of this site or distribute full Star Wars films, books, comics, or games. Therefore, those two activities are not allowed on the board even if not explicitly stated, and this stretches across to all franchises.
This has several implications for you all as writers. Because all of what is written in Star Wars RP.net as a role-play is a derivative work of Star Wars, no-one truly owns what they write in role-plays. Therefore, while unfortunate when it does happen, no member can attempt to claim copyright infringement against themselves if someone copies their work. This is why civil suits originating from role-players are unfounded, and if anyone is threatened with one at Star Wars RP.net they should immediately report it to staff.
However, when one copies character concepts and is clearly plagiarizing, then staff may be able to help you. We understand how frustrating it could be to have your ideas stolen and used on the board. No legal action will be taken, but using the report button will certainly draw attention to the possible plagiarism. A Role-Play Judge will begin an investigation in the issue and eventually make a judgement. When the judgement has been made, it may be appealed like any other judgement.
If a member has discovered that their characters or role-plays have been copied over to another website without his or her permission, the best staff can do in this situation is to inform the owners of the website in question of what happened and hope that they take care of it. This limited response to such a scenario is, to state once again, due to the fact that no member is the copyright holder of their own characters on this site.
When it comes to artwork, how one may distribute and use such works depends on the rights holder. For instance, the current artwork used for the Clockwork Rebellion theme came from Riyahd Cassiem with his expressed permission. In order to use his artwork, we have credited him for it and provided a link back to his DeviantArt page and blog. Other artists may give people free reign to do whatever they want with their artwork. Most artists do not want their artwork used for commercial gain. Some artists want absolutely no-one to touch or distribute their art. As the rights holder (assuming that the work is copyrighted, which it is if it comes from DeviantArt), these artists have the final say on how anyone else uses their work.
Therefore, should they ever wish for our site to remove their material if they find that a member has used their artwork, the staff will have to remove the content upon verification that they are the copyright holder of the intellectual property in question.
Because staff cannot possibly know the wishes of all the copyright holders that have their artwork used as signatures, avatars, or promotional pictures to role-plays and also because of the fact that staff cannot sustain continuous attempts to remove all material under suspicion of not being a member's original work, staff will not ask members to remove material posted on the boards unless we have been contacted to do so by the appropriate people.
I do know, though, that artists generally appreciate link-backs to where you got their work - whether to their DeviantArt page or blog. Therefore, there is no reason to suggest that the staff discourage the citation of artwork. Staff just cannot adequately enforce citations for every single picture used by hundreds of members.
Such a policy actually extends to most staff actions. We will generally not get in yall's faces until another member or appropriate party contacts us and issues a complaint and after staff has deemed that the complaint was justified and the appropriate response to the complaint needs us to get in someone's face.
For a short, simple, and sweet answer, this site does not have any official rules regarding copying others' works, specifically characters. Yet for material posted on the site, members may use the report button if they feel that another member of the board has plagiarized their work. There is also no rule over whether or not to cite another work of art's source, as the staff of Star Wars RP.net can never be certain of what is original and what is not. We also do not have the time to verify the art's originality, if it is copyrighted, and what the copyright holder wants pertaining to the work. Yet, citing the artist is never discouraged and Star Wars RP.net will remove copyrighted artwork if the holder of the rights asks us to remove it.
For a more in-depth explanation, I would like to first explain the difference between plagiarism and copyright. The distinctions are important to make as some role-players believe that they can press charges over copyright infringement or plagiarism in the event that someone explicitly copies their characters. In fact, they cannot successfully do so with either.
Plagiarism is essentially presenting another person's work as one's own. An example of this would be if I take definite aspects of Asemir Lor'kora the character and made a character with them claiming that they were my own. This can happen accidentally, which is why American writers may remember that their English teachers and professors always forced them to cite every fact and opinion presented in research papers. Plagiarism is generally unethical, yet it is not illegal by default. Generally, if someone sues for non-copyrighted plagiarism, the most they may get is that the person that plagiarized must edit his or her work to credit the originator of the idea that was plagiarized.
Copyright is entirely an issue of legality. When a piece of work has copyright, this means that some entity has all the rights to an intellectual property and the derivative works. Star Wars is the copyrighted intellectual property of Lucasfilm LTD. Copyright infringement would be using clear elements of Star Wars and adapting it to one's own work, overlapping with plagiarism. It could also mean that one distributes Star Wars material, such as artwork, films, and games, without permission from Lucasfilm. One thing to note is that not everything said or written is then under copyright. There is a legal process that must be taken in order to copyright intellectual property, especially new IP.
For Star Wars RP.net, all artwork used in the themes are either used with the permission of the artist or they are copyrighted Star Wars material. Luckily for Star Wars RP.net, Lucasfilm actually maintains a very friendly stance toward fansites using copyrighted material and even provides a page that links to several major fan sites. This is because attempting to sue every fan site is more costly to Lucasfilm both in money and fans than if the sites were allowed. Lucasfilm will only intervene if we either make money off of this site or distribute full Star Wars films, books, comics, or games. Therefore, those two activities are not allowed on the board even if not explicitly stated, and this stretches across to all franchises.
This has several implications for you all as writers. Because all of what is written in Star Wars RP.net as a role-play is a derivative work of Star Wars, no-one truly owns what they write in role-plays. Therefore, while unfortunate when it does happen, no member can attempt to claim copyright infringement against themselves if someone copies their work. This is why civil suits originating from role-players are unfounded, and if anyone is threatened with one at Star Wars RP.net they should immediately report it to staff.
However, when one copies character concepts and is clearly plagiarizing, then staff may be able to help you. We understand how frustrating it could be to have your ideas stolen and used on the board. No legal action will be taken, but using the report button will certainly draw attention to the possible plagiarism. A Role-Play Judge will begin an investigation in the issue and eventually make a judgement. When the judgement has been made, it may be appealed like any other judgement.
If a member has discovered that their characters or role-plays have been copied over to another website without his or her permission, the best staff can do in this situation is to inform the owners of the website in question of what happened and hope that they take care of it. This limited response to such a scenario is, to state once again, due to the fact that no member is the copyright holder of their own characters on this site.
When it comes to artwork, how one may distribute and use such works depends on the rights holder. For instance, the current artwork used for the Clockwork Rebellion theme came from Riyahd Cassiem with his expressed permission. In order to use his artwork, we have credited him for it and provided a link back to his DeviantArt page and blog. Other artists may give people free reign to do whatever they want with their artwork. Most artists do not want their artwork used for commercial gain. Some artists want absolutely no-one to touch or distribute their art. As the rights holder (assuming that the work is copyrighted, which it is if it comes from DeviantArt), these artists have the final say on how anyone else uses their work.
Therefore, should they ever wish for our site to remove their material if they find that a member has used their artwork, the staff will have to remove the content upon verification that they are the copyright holder of the intellectual property in question.
Because staff cannot possibly know the wishes of all the copyright holders that have their artwork used as signatures, avatars, or promotional pictures to role-plays and also because of the fact that staff cannot sustain continuous attempts to remove all material under suspicion of not being a member's original work, staff will not ask members to remove material posted on the boards unless we have been contacted to do so by the appropriate people.
I do know, though, that artists generally appreciate link-backs to where you got their work - whether to their DeviantArt page or blog. Therefore, there is no reason to suggest that the staff discourage the citation of artwork. Staff just cannot adequately enforce citations for every single picture used by hundreds of members.
Such a policy actually extends to most staff actions. We will generally not get in yall's faces until another member or appropriate party contacts us and issues a complaint and after staff has deemed that the complaint was justified and the appropriate response to the complaint needs us to get in someone's face.
Though I don't agree with the rest of the post, I do agree with upping it to three. I just think it would work better. Like you could have your faction tag (1) your rank tag (2) and then a extra tag showing what you do (3).Vladimir Tedesky said:
L Admin
The problem is, 3 stretches out the post size. You can ignore signatures, so that debate is negligible. So, the only way I'd consider doing such a thing is if we made avatars smaller than the 150 x 150 size currently allotted. And I'm personally pretty fond of the current avatar size.
Also, keeping it restricted to 2 makes Force Users have to choose from a limited selection while non-FUs have more variety. This is intended.
Also, keeping it restricted to 2 makes Force Users have to choose from a limited selection while non-FUs have more variety. This is intended.
L Admin
Also, concerning copyright concerns and the use of an artist's work, we do recommend citing the picture, though we do not enforce it. There is a general disclaimer and credit attribution section of our Getting Started Guide in the Welcome New Members forum, as that guide was heavily used when the site was first created.
We will work on making the credits and disclaimer a little more publicly accessible so that in the case of a DMCA complaint or copyright infringement complaint with an artist, they can more easily request the Staff Team remove their work.
I wish to reiterate my fellow Admin's statements to reflect that we don't make a habit of stealing work intentionally, and all artists involved in the website as well as LucasFilm are properly attributed.
We will work on making the credits and disclaimer a little more publicly accessible so that in the case of a DMCA complaint or copyright infringement complaint with an artist, they can more easily request the Staff Team remove their work.
I wish to reiterate my fellow Admin's statements to reflect that we don't make a habit of stealing work intentionally, and all artists involved in the website as well as LucasFilm are properly attributed.
Ashin Varanin
Professional Enabler
Apparatus and I have been working on a power guide list for the Sith Empire. It's a work in progress but should make an appearance relatively soon. It's a guide, not a list of rules.Mikhail Shorn said:
L Admin
^ Not a requirement, as we want factions to retain their freedoms, but I applaud TSE for being proactive on this.
TiCira D'Arr Hawk
Singing Mountain Clan
Satara has also been working on a guide for the witches on their spells. It is only a guideline, but should serve to aid in proper use of the spells.Ashin Varanin said:
The Crashing Loony
Not really considering Clockwork and all, also, I didn't see a Corporate Security Alliance tagTefga said: