Avalore Eden
If there be light...
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Faction Direction
- Thread starter Kiskla Grayson-Matteo
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Hope is Kindled
I'm not exactly new here, but considering I don't rp on this board very much. I won't be voting, but I figured I could the least present just my own opinion. The idea of Joining factions is nice, and all that jazz. But when it comes down to it, its up to the members to make it work. If you have some members that aren't fully committed to such a thing, of course, the idea as a whole could collapse. So once again, its up to the members to make such a faction thrive. By which, many of you I'm sure already are aware of.
There are merits with both plans, IO particularly I'm not an entirely big fan of the fall of the Republic story arc, simply because I think there is already a faction with the "Rebellion" title in name and definition among the ranks, if I am mistaken, I truly apologize. In regards to fighting on for the Galactic Republic, I like it. Just for my own reasons of I've always like that there was a Galactic Republic here, it makes me think back to the EP 1,2,3 and then to EP 4, with Obi-Wan's quote. "For over a thousand generations the Jedi Knights were the guardians of peace and Justice in the Old Republic, before the dark times, before the Empire." Not to mention, I always thought it would be cool for any Jedi Master to go before the Supreme Chancellor or a Sith for the matter and just be like. "In the name of the Galactic Senate of the Republic, your under arrest Chancellor, err...I mean Sith." Haha!
Moving on.
Merging factions would be cool as well. As it was stated earlier from what I read, if you have such unity and join allegiance with each other and you could become the ultimate power in the galaxy. Do we as Jedi strive on power, no. But, alas, you can see my point. Good stories will come of this, and as far as a new surge of activity is nice. We can never be sure for how long. Yet once more that remains up to the member to strive for such an achievement of honor/chivalry and whatever we could hope to achieve by forming into the Galactic Alliance.
Once more, I thought I would just put forth my own opinion on the matter. The choice is yours.
And remember my friends, that no matter what happens.
The force will be with you, always.
There are merits with both plans, IO particularly I'm not an entirely big fan of the fall of the Republic story arc, simply because I think there is already a faction with the "Rebellion" title in name and definition among the ranks, if I am mistaken, I truly apologize. In regards to fighting on for the Galactic Republic, I like it. Just for my own reasons of I've always like that there was a Galactic Republic here, it makes me think back to the EP 1,2,3 and then to EP 4, with Obi-Wan's quote. "For over a thousand generations the Jedi Knights were the guardians of peace and Justice in the Old Republic, before the dark times, before the Empire." Not to mention, I always thought it would be cool for any Jedi Master to go before the Supreme Chancellor or a Sith for the matter and just be like. "In the name of the Galactic Senate of the Republic, your under arrest Chancellor, err...I mean Sith." Haha!
Moving on.
Merging factions would be cool as well. As it was stated earlier from what I read, if you have such unity and join allegiance with each other and you could become the ultimate power in the galaxy. Do we as Jedi strive on power, no. But, alas, you can see my point. Good stories will come of this, and as far as a new surge of activity is nice. We can never be sure for how long. Yet once more that remains up to the member to strive for such an achievement of honor/chivalry and whatever we could hope to achieve by forming into the Galactic Alliance.
Once more, I thought I would just put forth my own opinion on the matter. The choice is yours.
And remember my friends, that no matter what happens.
The force will be with you, always.
The End Narrator
Narrator
+1Avalore Eden said:
Vaudin Miir
Planetary President of Iktotch
Posting IC and not going darkside would help beat the One Sith. Just saying. Threads where you go at each other over whose opinion is best just ruins the good others do. You could just have voted and pm'd your opinions.
Ayden Cater
Grumpy Goat
[member="Vaudin Miir"]
There might be some vocal, even heated disagreement, but it's important for topics like this to have the discussion out in the open where everyone can see. People need to see the discussion as it unfolds, see the back-and-forth to determine if there's any legitimacy to what is being proposed.
There might be some vocal, even heated disagreement, but it's important for topics like this to have the discussion out in the open where everyone can see. People need to see the discussion as it unfolds, see the back-and-forth to determine if there's any legitimacy to what is being proposed.
Hal Terrano
Prince of Porridge
Man, ya'll going for each others throats. *wears a turtle neck*
Honestly, I just like the image of Rebellion a la the original trilogy, haha.
Honestly, I just like the image of Rebellion a la the original trilogy, haha.
Vaudin Miir
Planetary President of Iktotch
[member="Ayden Cater"]
The way people act in threads like this make me rather not be in the group at all. It's just sad and makes bad blood between members, but I'm out I won't keep being a downer. Sorry man.
The way people act in threads like this make me rather not be in the group at all. It's just sad and makes bad blood between members, but I'm out I won't keep being a downer. Sorry man.
Directorate Officer
While I much prefer civil discussion, I prefer transparency much more.
As a new player, I don't always feel like I know the whole story, so seeing everyone talk about it has certainly helped. It's also changed my vote.
As a new player, I don't always feel like I know the whole story, so seeing everyone talk about it has certainly helped. It's also changed my vote.
Ayden Cater
Grumpy Goat
Not my faction, but I 'll go ahead and ask; the folks who want to take on the Rebellion angle (option 2), what makes this option appeal to you over the others presented right now?
[member="Lysle of the Hydian Way"], [member="Michael Sardun"], [member="Persephone Callas"], [member="Tugoro Taidarious"], [member="Camellia Swift"], [member="Saran Drast"], [member="Vaermina"], [member="Seydon of Arda"], [member="Hal Terrano"], [member="Flint Dexen"]
[member="Lysle of the Hydian Way"], [member="Michael Sardun"], [member="Persephone Callas"], [member="Tugoro Taidarious"], [member="Camellia Swift"], [member="Saran Drast"], [member="Vaermina"], [member="Seydon of Arda"], [member="Hal Terrano"], [member="Flint Dexen"]
Camellia Swift
Camellia
[member="Ayden Cater"]
To be honest I voted for option 3, but seeing it struggle if I had to lend my vote to either side I'd rather see a rebel movement. I'd personally rather see it if we lost another 3-5 invasions first (the last being that big last stand maybe). Mostly because I dislike the idea of the OP and Republic merging since it will only cause logistical problems in my opinion, it doesn't do anything for the members themselves except expand our numbers again in my opinion, and basically just makes us a bigger version of what we are except the group will slowly just become the OP or Republic again down the line.
2 at the very least is different, but again I'd rather we waited a little longer before devolving into it. It could benefit Wraith Squadron and we could build up through alliances maybe with the other rebel cell and become friends with the Sanctum and Silver Jedi. I think that could be cool, but I DO think it should be put off for another few battles and not just one right away now. It could also allow Wraith Squadron to grow and that could turn into some interesting work.
I still prefer option 3, I want to make that clear. Its just I'd rather see option 2 win than 1.
To be honest I voted for option 3, but seeing it struggle if I had to lend my vote to either side I'd rather see a rebel movement. I'd personally rather see it if we lost another 3-5 invasions first (the last being that big last stand maybe). Mostly because I dislike the idea of the OP and Republic merging since it will only cause logistical problems in my opinion, it doesn't do anything for the members themselves except expand our numbers again in my opinion, and basically just makes us a bigger version of what we are except the group will slowly just become the OP or Republic again down the line.
2 at the very least is different, but again I'd rather we waited a little longer before devolving into it. It could benefit Wraith Squadron and we could build up through alliances maybe with the other rebel cell and become friends with the Sanctum and Silver Jedi. I think that could be cool, but I DO think it should be put off for another few battles and not just one right away now. It could also allow Wraith Squadron to grow and that could turn into some interesting work.
I still prefer option 3, I want to make that clear. Its just I'd rather see option 2 win than 1.
Saran Drast
Templar
If I'm to be honest, I've been expecting the fall of the Republic for a while now. The playerbase is dwindling, and with the Spamfest that is invasions, I can't see us winning any battles anytime soon. And I'm not so sure how well a combined Republic/Protectorate will do afterwards. I just don't know how well the combination would work out in the end.
The End Narrator
Narrator
Ayden Cater said:
Duch’a of Selab
Hapes would finally be left alone. 
The Hapan people would rejoice!
But that is besides the point.
With the new movies coming out along with Star Wars Rebels, it is an iconic move that will be far more familiar to new writers and old. Plus, there are more than a few worlds in the Republic which are not too happy with the status quo and how things are progressing --- or more aptly -- deteriorating in the Republic. (A draft of the republic's poor! )
A rebellion can start out as a minor faction, or even start out major, merge with the current Rebel Alliance -- doesn't matter to me. But it gives options that are something different than holding ties with a senate and ending up with the Jedi over dominating the faction as it has since the creation of the board.
The Republic has stagnated, and even as an alliance -- it won't change the government structure that has been causing the stagnation, because from the write up--- it will be the exact same thing only that now, a Jedi master will be part of that government structure.
And due to the majority of the Jedi, already unconsciously push the bulk of the activity in the Republic to begin with.
Personally, I'd like to see the Jedi order strike out as a minor faction by themselves, have the freedom to move anywhere. Help anyone --- let the NFU's who want to become more of a dominant presence be able to push themselves and do what they need to do without the Jedi.
The Hapan people would rejoice!
But that is besides the point.
With the new movies coming out along with Star Wars Rebels, it is an iconic move that will be far more familiar to new writers and old. Plus, there are more than a few worlds in the Republic which are not too happy with the status quo and how things are progressing --- or more aptly -- deteriorating in the Republic. (A draft of the republic's poor!
)A rebellion can start out as a minor faction, or even start out major, merge with the current Rebel Alliance -- doesn't matter to me. But it gives options that are something different than holding ties with a senate and ending up with the Jedi over dominating the faction as it has since the creation of the board.
The Republic has stagnated, and even as an alliance -- it won't change the government structure that has been causing the stagnation, because from the write up--- it will be the exact same thing only that now, a Jedi master will be part of that government structure.
And due to the majority of the Jedi, already unconsciously push the bulk of the activity in the Republic to begin with.
Personally, I'd like to see the Jedi order strike out as a minor faction by themselves, have the freedom to move anywhere. Help anyone --- let the NFU's who want to become more of a dominant presence be able to push themselves and do what they need to do without the Jedi.
Never Fade Away
Wow. Angry mob is angry.
I still think the merger isn't a half bad idea. Yet, I kind of like the idea of The Jedi Order being it's own faction, perhaps allied alongside this merger. Just my two cents though.
I still think the merger isn't a half bad idea. Yet, I kind of like the idea of The Jedi Order being it's own faction, perhaps allied alongside this merger. Just my two cents though.
Veino Garn
Saaraai-Kaar
Looks I'll be coming out of LOA for this one. <_<
I'll think about it a few times on my backpacking trip over the weekend.
These three options are actually all ones I'd been considering about potentially suggesting. Huge story potential in all of them. All of them could crash and burn. All of them can succeed. The idea itself is mostly unimportant to that. The key is us. We can take any of the three options and write a brilliant, emotionally resonant, jaw-dropping storyline that will make Disney hire us for the next trilogy, or we can all drop the baby and make any of them fail.
The question is which one we'd enjoy writing more. And as someone who writes in many genres and in many types of characters, I'm not sure yet. The choice is a delicious looking pizza that I'm enjoying considering before really eating. There's no need to rush everything yet. There's a week to consider it.
I'll think about it a few times on my backpacking trip over the weekend.
These three options are actually all ones I'd been considering about potentially suggesting. Huge story potential in all of them. All of them could crash and burn. All of them can succeed. The idea itself is mostly unimportant to that. The key is us. We can take any of the three options and write a brilliant, emotionally resonant, jaw-dropping storyline that will make Disney hire us for the next trilogy, or we can all drop the baby and make any of them fail.
The question is which one we'd enjoy writing more. And as someone who writes in many genres and in many types of characters, I'm not sure yet. The choice is a delicious looking pizza that I'm enjoying considering before really eating. There's no need to rush everything yet. There's a week to consider it.
Serah Oricion
Character
I have a question for all those voting for the Rebellion, as im pretty sure that the Merger might not happen. Say we do the whole rebellion thing, what happens to those in the Senate? Unlike Yusan, a majority of Senators cannot fight and if we do a Rebellion thing how are they going to be included in this. That is another reason i don't want to see the Republic Dissolve is because it doesn't destroy, but utterly removes that entire aspect of the faction...
Duch’a of Selab
Deal with Hapan politics without Republic drafts
At least, that is what -i- would do. Some may be like Princess leia and support the rebellion.
Others may not.
Really, you do what you can based on what is the current need.
Besides, simply look at the Corellian Treaty. They still had some measure of loose structure.
"We agree that the time for diplomacy and politics has passed. It is now time for action… therefore let this be an official declaration of rebellion! Today, we all vow to change the galaxy, and one day the galaxy will indeed be free! "
The treaty inspired dozens, then hundreds, then thousands of resistance cells across the galaxy to join the Alliance, such as Sian Tevv and the Sullustans and Jennsar So-Billes and his Duro fighters. Several organizations became part of the Rebel Alliance, including Kota's Militia and most of the surviving Separatist holdouts. In which they soon establishedSanctuary Base on Dantooine, as the first command center of the Rebel Alliance.
One of the stipulations of the Corellian Treaty was that, upon the death, resignation, or overthrow of Palpatine, the position of Chief of State would cease to exist. Instead, a Constitutional Convention was required to be called, to debate the form of the restored Galactic Republic.
Which turned into the Galactic Alliance aka New Republic.
Which in turn if you REALLY want to go to an alliance with OP... well... there you go --- it's all laid out up there how to do it ~~ Rebellion first - attempt at alliance afterward.
At least, that is what -i- would do. Some may be like Princess leia and support the rebellion.
Others may not.
Really, you do what you can based on what is the current need.
Besides, simply look at the Corellian Treaty. They still had some measure of loose structure.
"We agree that the time for diplomacy and politics has passed. It is now time for action… therefore let this be an official declaration of rebellion! Today, we all vow to change the galaxy, and one day the galaxy will indeed be free! "
The treaty inspired dozens, then hundreds, then thousands of resistance cells across the galaxy to join the Alliance, such as Sian Tevv and the Sullustans and Jennsar So-Billes and his Duro fighters. Several organizations became part of the Rebel Alliance, including Kota's Militia and most of the surviving Separatist holdouts. In which they soon establishedSanctuary Base on Dantooine, as the first command center of the Rebel Alliance.
One of the stipulations of the Corellian Treaty was that, upon the death, resignation, or overthrow of Palpatine, the position of Chief of State would cease to exist. Instead, a Constitutional Convention was required to be called, to debate the form of the restored Galactic Republic.
Which turned into the Galactic Alliance aka New Republic.
Which in turn if you REALLY want to go to an alliance with OP... well... there you go --- it's all laid out up there how to do it ~~ Rebellion first - attempt at alliance afterward.
Saran Drast
Templar
[member="Memorial"]
Provide support, ships, and safe havens. They may or may not have some control over planets. Let them use that.
Provide support, ships, and safe havens. They may or may not have some control over planets. Let them use that.
Flint Dexen
Wandering Lost Soul
I don't find the idea of a pre-determined win for the One Sith very appealing. I was thinking that perhaps we could use the outcome of the all-in battle against the One Sith at Anaxes to determine which course of action that the Republic would (basically be forced IC to) take.
Outcome #1 - The Republic's complete and utter defeat at Anaxes. In which case, the One Sith annihilates the Republic forces and government, and thus effectively destroys the Republic as a faction. Remaining survivors would group together to form sort of a rebel alliance (option 2),
Outcome #2 - Defeat but with minimal losses, and successful evacuation. In such case, the Republic would seek to join hands with the Omega Protectorate to form the Galactic Alliance (as described in option 1).
Outcome #3 - (Unlikely) Victory over the One Sith and successfully defending Anaxes. This would allow the Republic to continue to stand on its own.
The reason why I would like for the IC outcome of the battle at Anaxes to determine the faction direction is because it would provide the most logical flow of events.
Outcome #1 - The Republic's complete and utter defeat at Anaxes. In which case, the One Sith annihilates the Republic forces and government, and thus effectively destroys the Republic as a faction. Remaining survivors would group together to form sort of a rebel alliance (option 2),
Outcome #2 - Defeat but with minimal losses, and successful evacuation. In such case, the Republic would seek to join hands with the Omega Protectorate to form the Galactic Alliance (as described in option 1).
Outcome #3 - (Unlikely) Victory over the One Sith and successfully defending Anaxes. This would allow the Republic to continue to stand on its own.
The reason why I would like for the IC outcome of the battle at Anaxes to determine the faction direction is because it would provide the most logical flow of events.
Ayden Cater
Grumpy Goat
Well I spoke with Tef and he indicated that one side would lose 2/3rds of its present territory.
Given that I imagine this is a dealbreaker for most of you, I'll leave y'all to your conversation about the future of the faction.
Given that I imagine this is a dealbreaker for most of you, I'll leave y'all to your conversation about the future of the faction.
